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Discussion Starter · #81 ·
setting the heads on and the washers for the ARP stud kit look like they could be a pain to install.

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I slide the washer over this.
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Held onto the washer to line it up.
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headache free installation and no lost washers.
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setting the heads on and the washers for the ARP stud kit look like they could be a pain to install.
Did the pinch studs seem short? I have a Katech/ARP LS9 kit and the studs are a bit long and the pinch studs are short if I bottom them out.
 

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Did the pinch studs seem short? I have a Katech/ARP LS9 kit and the studs are a bit long and the pinch studs are short if I bottom them out.
They are flush after torquing on the pinch stud nuts. Bolts 11-15
I use a regular torque wrench and the AC-Delco digital adapter. (That AC-Delco adapter is a great purchase) while I was torquing the head studs 1-10 it took 3 rounds 15ft-lbs first 3 times, 25 second 3 times, 50ft-lbs third 3 times, 80ft-lbs forth 3 times. I go until I get no movement at the torque specs on any nut. 11-15 I did 12 ft-lbs 3 times, 28 ft-lbs it took 8 times to get them to all stop moving at 28 ft-lbs.
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Jason can you post a pic of the AC Delco digital adapter if you don't mind?, I'll be checking/retorqueing my heads & intake soon and might be interested in buying one of those, TIA
 

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Discussion Starter · #86 · (Edited)
What I’ve found with my regular torque wrench is it’s about 4 ft-lbs off above 40 anything lower it’s dead on most of the time. I’ve found with using the adapter the torque wrench doesn’t click at the same number every time like during the head studs at 80 it would click from 75-80 but that adapter reads and beeps the same number. A lot depends on how you’re holding the torque wrench for proper consistent readings. But that adapter doesn’t care it just reads how much force is being applied to the bolt/nut.
 

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I do think I must have those in my tool box (y)(y):)
 

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Installed the shaft mount rockers and got the measurements for the pushrods.
Here’s what I got with preload added in.
1 E 7.6475
I 7.6475
3 E 7.62875
I 7.62125
5 E 7.635
I 7.76285
7 E 7.62875
I 7.64125

2 E 7.62875
I 7.635
4 E 7.6225
I 7.6225
6 E 7.61
I 7.635
8 E 7.635
I 7.66
8 different sizes.
This is why it’s best to check every pushrod length. The recommended preload for the lifters is .035 +/- .005
.093 is the total plunger travel.
I will be calling Manton on Monday. I will be going with one of these options all will have 5/16 balls, straight wall 3/8 .120 , 3/8 dual taper .120 to 5/16
Or 3/8 dual taper .120 to 11/32.
Here’s a shot of the Brian Tooley Racing shaft mount system and BTR rockers, each cylinder has its own mount shaft setting on a billet steel pedestal. 5 fastener holding it down.
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All of the intake studs protrude into the intake ports. I seal them with AC Delco RTV
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My Brodix RR heads had the int. rocker studs in the port, I used Permatex High Perf. thread sealant ...Or was it the exh.?? your AC Delco RTV looks the same as the stuff I used, Jason I had a headache for a week after measuring for PR's and even sent one set of TFS rods back, ended up using Trend Perf. rods in .025 increments
 

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My Brodix RR heads had the int. rocker studs in the port, I used Permatex High Perf. thread sealant ...Or was it the exh.?? your AC Delco RTV looks the same as the stuff I used, Jason I had a headache for a week after measuring for PR's and even sent one set of TFS rods back, ended up using Trend Perf. rods in .025 increments
Manton will make them to the exact size. From what I’ve read.
.035 +/-.005 preload doesn’t allow much room. I’ve measured on the 5.3 I have in the car currently. That took me awhile. This time I had BTR set up the springs that save some time. This time was about 2-3 hours. It’s painstaking work for sure. Measureing 2 times once I got a number I wrote down and checking the ones that looked high or low. Hopefully Manton pushrods are accurate.
 

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IIRC when I watched a spintron video about PR's it was at the Manton facility so I'm sure they'll be right on the money with size, high quality parts IMHO
 

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Valley cover came in today. Manton said the pushrods should be done by Thursday ended up ordering series 5 3/8 straight wall .145 thickness. Per their recommendation. The .120 wall wasn’t available. They split the difference on a few of them that measured real close. the 7.66 with preload. I rechecked and must of not been on the base circle completely it ended up being 7.6285.
so I have 4 different pushrod lengths.
Bottom right you can see the adapter so I can pressurize the oiling system to prime and verify oil flow. Using a chemical sprayer as the pressure tank.
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Did you put a steering wheel on your engine stand to turn engines over with?...Very Cool idea (y) :LOL:
 

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Forgot to mention while I was assembling the Brian Tooley Racing shaft mount rockers. I found the first one I put together was hard to assemble. I called them while I was assembling it because I didn’t feel like something was right. While on hold I started assembling the next set and it slide together perfectly. I had done 3-4 sets by the time my call was answered about 5-6 minutes.
I asked if they had a spec for the shaft size because I have one reading .6245 and I had to use a press to make it go onto the shaft. I measured all the rest and found all are .6240-.6235. And I had no problem assembling them. They asked for pictures and sent out a new shaft and 4 bearings right away. The force applied to assembling them should be from your
Palm pushing down maybe 30-40 lbs.

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Discussion Starter · #96 ·
Centering the oil pump housing and
front rear covers are important. I found this the easy way to center things. I used this method on my Chevelles current engine also.
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slip the bushings into the oil pump housing on all four holes. Don’t over tighten them with the bushings in place just snug hand tight to hold the pump in place.
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Remove one bolt and bushing at a time once all are in place. Set the bushings aside
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This method also works on the front and rear covers.
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Or you can use the Mellings method on the oil pump.

 

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Or you can use the Mellings method on the oil pump.

The pump slides back down mellings way. The only other way I’ve seen is with shims. But you void the warranty on pumps by taking them apart.
 

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The pump slides back down mellings way. The only other way I’ve seen is with shims. But you void the warranty on pumps by taking them apart.
Who makes the aligning sleeves? Most of the kits have feeler gauges to put between the gear and housing to get proper clearances. Since the sleeves align to the bolt holes how do they account for any tolerance between the crank bore to mounting bolt hole alignment?
 

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The oil pumps have a very tight tolerance. The machining is dead on. Aligning the crank centers the bolt holes. The factory just slaps them on most will not have a problem with just bolting them on. People claim centering them helps survival at high rpm. On the 5.3 9 years ago I used the bushings. Then checked with shims it was perfect. If you just loosely bolt the pump on you can see there is very little movement in any direction.
 
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