[Pioneer4x4]

Where all on a 1967 El Camino would I look for information on what is and was installed from the factory?

Original 327 is long gone, it went in a 1980 Monza...
Original 3 speed is gone.

I am interested in everything else,
Axle ratio and type, factory color, interior options stuff like that.
I do not know if we have the POP (I doubt it). I know the bench seat was recovered from vinly to vinly/cloth (huge improvement)

I am trying to get any info I can from it before I go get it in 2 weeks, and I honestly don't know where all to look.

Once I get the VIN, I can find where the build sheet is most likely located, correct?

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Ok, I got the trim tag and it confirms everything I already knew...
V8 Malibu El Camino with blue interior vinyl bench seat, and dark blue exterior.
Made in Kansas City 3rd month of June 1967 correct?

What is the 5816 on the top of the tag?

And what are the actual colors of the interior and exterior?

I would like to order some matching carpet floor mats and get rid of the black rubber ones that are in it!

 

[Ethan1]

Ok, I got the trim tag and it confirms everything I already knew...
V8 Malibu El Camino with blue interior vinyl bench seat, and dark blue exterior.
Made in Kansas City 3rd month of June 1967 correct?

What is the 5816 on the top of the tag?

And what are the actual colors of the interior and exterior?

I would like to order some matching carpet floor mats and get rid of the black rubber ones that are in it!

The 5816 I believe was a plant tracking number. Nothing of significance today. There is 1 option listed on your Trim Tag. The letter "W", which is for tinted windshield only. Color Deepwater Blue exterior lower/upper. All the rest you have correct. As for other options, you might have to look for a broadcast sheet.

 

[DaleM]

Interior is Medium Blue (not to be confused with Medium Bright Blue) and exterior is Deepwater Blue (a hard color to capture on film)

In 1966 the same color was called Danube Blue...

As for the 5816 number, concensus is it is an internal KC tracking number. It's on every 67 Kans City tag and it's always a 4-digit number. I have yet to see any matching paperwork with the number however.

The "W" on the trim tag shows it came with tinted windshield (all tinted glass would have an "E") but that's the only code on the tag showing any options. If, IF it was originally a 327 w/3-speed the rear end ratio was probably 3.08:1 since that was standard for that engine/trans combination.

Kansas City didn't use GMAD build sheets until late 1969. Prior to that there were Body Broadcast (for Fisher Body) and Chassis Broadcast (for final asembly) sheets. Chances of finding either one are slim to none and slim is packing to leave. Since the seat has been recovered, that possible location is out. Sometimes they've been found on the inside of the fender between the fender and skirt but they're usually pretty well gone. Just knowing the VIN doesn't guarantee you'll find any paperwork.

For more 67 information check my site at http://chevellestuff.net/1967/index.htm and you can see some examples of paperwork found at http://chevellestuff.net/1967/bs.htm. You'll notice everything has some sort of broadcast code and very few are known for pre-69 Chevelles.

 

[Ethan1]

Ok, I got the trim tag and it confirms everything I already knew...
V8 Malibu El Camino with blue interior vinyl bench seat, and dark blue exterior.
Made in Kansas City 3rd month of June 1967 correct?

What is the 5816 on the top of the tag?

And what are the actual colors of the interior and exterior?

I would like to order some matching carpet floor mats and get rid of the black rubber ones that are in it!

Actually, the build date is 3rd Week of June, instead of 3rd Month of June. I think you knew, just a mis-type.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Actually, the build date is 3rd Week of June, instead of 3rd Month of June. I think you knew, just a mis-type.

Uh, yeah, DOH!

 

[Pioneer4x4]

The 5816 I believe was a plant tracking number. Nothing of significance today. There is 1 option listed on your Trim Tag. The letter "W", which is for tinted windshield only. Color Deepwater Blue exterior lower/upper. All the rest you have correct. As for other options, you might have to look for a broadcast sheet.

It does have a tinted windshield, thanks for that as well.
It has been repainted twice, it is still dark blue metallic now and was when we got it 15 years ago, Was Deepwater Blue a metallic?

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Interior is Medium Blue (not to be confused with Medium Bright Blue) and exterior is Deepwater Blue (a hard color to capture on film)

In 1966 the same color was called Danube Blue...

The "W" on the trim tag shows it came with tinted windshield (all tinted glass would have an "E") but that's the only code on the tag showing any options. If, IF it was originally a 327 w/3-speed the rear end ratio was probably 3.08:1 since that was standard for that engine/trans combination.

Yep, that looks like the interior, kind of a metallic light/medium blue vinyl, and that Chevelle is very nice in the same color combination.
3.08 sounds reasonable.
Being a Malibu El Camino, what features would it definitely have. It has the Malibu on the dash, it has the woodgrain dash strip. Would it have had woodgrain on the tailgate? It does have the trim, not sure if they all had that or not. Are there any other doodads that a mailbu would include? (lights, trim?) It does have the inserts in the door panels, and bench seat, which were reapplied when it was re-done in cloth and vinyl. Fuel gauge and clock only.
It also has 1969 style Discs up front with a factory looking disc brake pedal, but it did not have a booster. We added a new master cylinder and booster. I originally assumed that someone replaced the 1967 calipers with cheaper single piston, but since it had no booster, I wonder if it came with all drums originally.

 

[DaleM]

Would it have had woodgrain on the tailgate? It does have the trim, not sure if they all had that or not. Are there any other doodads that a mailbu would include? (lights, trim?) It does have the inserts in the door panels, and bench seat, which were reapplied when it was re-done in cloth and vinyl. Fuel gauge and clock only.
It also has 1969 style Discs up front with a factory looking disc brake pedal, but it did not have a booster. We added a new master cylinder and booster. I originally assumed that someone replaced the 1967 calipers with cheaper single piston, but since it had no booster, I wonder if it came with all drums originally.

Yes it would have the woodgrain on the tailgate as well. Typically when one is redone either the bright trim is removed or the woodgrain is removed and painted.

Being a Malibu series the clock would have been standard and would have the lower belt-line brightwork.

Probably came with drum brakes originally. Disc brakes were first available in 1967 but not that many were sold. Later 69 and up disc brakes are a worthwhile upgrade. :yes:

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Thanks! Is the vinyl wood grain for tailgate available?


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[DaleM]

I don't know of any sources offhand but I'm sure bulk material is available.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Thanks everyone, I guess that covers it until I get to it. One week from tomorrow!

 

[elcamino]

5816 is a Fisher Body Job No for the car. In the plant all cars were just job numbers and thats how they referred to them, job number 5816.

They ran from 1 to 9999 and then that started over at 1.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Yes it would have the woodgrain on the tailgate as well. Typically when one is redone either the bright trim is removed or the woodgrain is removed and painted.

Being a Malibu series the clock would have been standard and would have the lower belt-line brightwork.

Probably came with drum brakes originally. Disc brakes were first available in 1967 but not that many were sold. Later 69 and up disc brakes are a worthwhile upgrade. :yes:

Yes I have all of those mouldings including the rear surround for the woodgrain. We also have wheel well trim, but my dad did not put them on when it was painting last time.
Here is a picture of the rear when I was in Area 51 on Groom Lake Rd. in February. The dust was like flour!
The pinstripe is a chrome tape, it looks nice, but I may remove it and go with a blue that matches the interior, possibly painted on.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Thanks! Is the vinyl wood grain for tailgate available?


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Cool, I just got my NPD catalog in the mail today and they have it.
http://www.npdlink.com/store/index.php?p=catalog&mode=search2&search_str=C-12197-103A
Paage 182 1967 "Gunstock grain" and 1968-72 "Brazilian grain"
$20 accounted for! Anyone have experience with it?

 

[DaleM]

5816 is a Fisher Body Job No for the car. In the plant all cars were just job numbers and thats how they referred to them, job number 5816.

They ran from 1 to 9999 and then that started over at 1.

The numbers may have ranged from 0001...9999 but they were not sequential by any means - either by series or by date. Example I have an 05E 13680 El Camino with 5813 but then an 06C 13680 El Camino with 4454 and another 06C 13680 El Camino with 5816. Other KC series jump all over the spectrum with build dates (and sequence numbers) not that far apart.

Again, not sure what they are or what other paperwork this (always) 4-digit number appears on.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Just curious as I have no ideas, but is there anything hard coded on the tag or build sheet for the destination of a vehicle? If it was ordered by a dealer, would that dealer be mentioned as its destination?

 

[DaleM]

Just curious as I have no ideas, but is there anything hard coded on the tag or build sheet for the destination of a vehicle? If it was ordered by a dealer, would that dealer be mentioned as its destination?

Only one instance that might meet your qualifications for a trim tag. On 1967 (only) Fremont tags, the 5-digit number in the lower left are from the dealer's order sheet. If one had that order sheet, they'd know the particular dealer.

GMAD build sheets (1969 and later) will have a CHARGED TO box and, if different, a SHIPPED TO box showing the destined dealer. Fremont build sheets from at least 1966 thru 1968 are very similar and have a CHARGED TO box. 1964 thru 1969 BODY and CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY sheets do not have this information but they do have a zone and dealer number but no name.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Only one instance that might meet your qualifications for a trim tag. On 1967 (only) Fremont tags, the 5-digit number in the lower left are from the dealer's order sheet. If one had that order sheet, they'd know the particular dealer.

GMAD build sheets (1969 and later) will have a CHARGED TO box and, if different, a SHIPPED TO box showing the destined dealer. Fremont build sheets from at least 1966 thru 1968 are very similar and have a CHARGED TO box. 1964 thru 1969 BODY and CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY sheets do not have this information but they do have a zone and dealer number but no name.

Wow, thanks. I am continiously amazed by the information out there on this site.