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      I think all 'name brand' welders will work well to a certain degree. with todays mass production, cost containment and overseas manufacturing, there will be a certain percentage of failure. There's also a significant learning curve with welding, not to suggest Pat is a complete beginner but even with experience there's a learning curve. So if you have a great discount on a decent hobart welder, take it, use it, enjoy it, and possibly out grow it. By then, buying a 220 v welder won't hurt so much. I've been welding for decades and push come to shove, my default move was to buy a 110 v, 140 mig. I've been burned by "eastwood" brands in the past so can't really recommend buy that over the Hobart. If you can figure out who made the eastwood machine then maybe. some accessories and replacement parts can be a beeyotch going with a 'proprietary' brand as well. If you can get a decent welder with a discount - go with the Hobart.


      having said that, Lincoln electric 230V weldpak 180 for just more than 600 bucks


      https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln...IG-and-Flux-Cored-Wire-230V-K2515-1/100670932
       
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      I think all 'name brand' welders will work well to a certain degree. with todays mass production, cost containment and overseas manufacturing, there will be a certain percentage of failure. There's also a significant learning curve with welding, not to suggest Pat is a complete beginner but even with experience there's a learning curve. So if you have a great discount on a decent hobart welder, take it, use it, enjoy it, and possibly out grow it. By then, buying a 220 v welder won't hurt so much. I've been welding for decades and push come to shove, my default move was to buy a 110 v, 140 mig. I've been burned by "eastwood" brands in the past so can't really recommend buy that over the Hobart. If you can figure out who made the eastwood machine then maybe. some accessories and replacement parts can be a beeyotch going with a 'proprietary' brand as well. If you can get a decent welder with a discount - go with the Hobart.


      having said that, Lincoln electric 230V weldpak 180 for just more than 600 bucks


      https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln...IG-and-Flux-Cored-Wire-230V-K2515-1/100670932

      I probably should have posted somewhere along this thread that I do have a lot of welding experience. I actually was a welder in a manufacturing plant for several years in the late 80's. The company manufactured attachments for heavy equipment. I then got into circle track racing and built my own cars from the ground up, boxing the frames, welding the cages, all types of fabrication.


      So knowing how to use the machine wont be a problem, just been out of it for a while, that is why the head scratching on what to get. The ONLY thing keeping me from walking into Tractor Supply and grabbing the 190 is the tap setting on the heat control, not sure how big of an issue that would be for me since my welding will be so limited but it is in my head.


      If I would go with a Lincoln or Miller I would have to do a 110 machine as I simply am not paying over 1K for a welder to get into their 220V machines. The guy at our local Lincoln/Miller dealer is convinced that a 110 on a dedicated 20 amp breaker circuit would be more than enough for what I need. I do have a great friend as a next door neighbor that has a huge shop with a 220 machine at my disposal if I were ever get into something that a 110 would not handle.


      The teeter totter ride continues.


      I must say the Miller 211 is so very tempting!!!
       
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