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post #31 of 313 (permalink) Old Mar 11th, 09, 12:44 AM
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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

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If there labelled Pontiac anywhere in the world then they are Pontiac. Two different companies dont make the same car...

If you want to relabel your Beaumont to Chevy then I'll relabel my clone as a real SS...

Pontiac made it, Pontiac Titled it, Pontiac made the documents. Pontiac book, pontiac parts.

Pontiac.

Thats sort my point... pontiac didnt make it and didnt title it. there's no documentation from the period that says its a pontiac. It doesnt have to be re-labeled in the first place. Kinda like going up to a gmc truck and calling it a pontiac or buick truck since they are sold at GM-Pontiac-Buick dealers.
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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

There is docs...

Look above.

There was NO car made called the PONTIAC.

The pictures posted above are just one example. To me the manual means, Pontiac Beaumont manual.

The picture of the dash could be proof as well.

PROVE that it isnt. Theres more proof of what it is...


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There is docs...

Look above.

There was NO car made called the PONTIAC.

The pictures posted above are just one example. To me the manual means, Pontiac Beaumont manual.

The picture of the dash could be proof as well.

PROVE that it isnt. Theres more proof of what it is...
Not Really Shane. I believe that chassis manual says, Pontiac, Acadian, Beaumont , in the same way my 1968 chassis manual says Chevrolet, Chevelle, Camaro, Chevy 2, and Corvette

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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

The answer to the original question is "Who cares?" A Beaumont is a unique Canadian muscle car with better styling than a chevelle, but then I am kind of biased. I used to think it was a Pontiac too, until I started researching it.

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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

Face it, the Beaumonts/Acadians are the GM bastard stepchildren. SD like a Pontiac, instead of Chevy's SS models, but with chevy engines? That isn't a Pontiac OR Chevy, it is a GM mix-breed.

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Not Really Shane. I believe that chassis manual says, Pontiac, Acadian, Beaumont , in the same way my 1968 chassis manual says Chevrolet, Chevelle, Camaro, Chevy 2, and Corvette
Terry,

I think your manual is saying Chevrolet, Chevelle Camaro Chevy 2 and Corvette...and to top it all off they are ALL CHEVY's.

Meaning what company followed by what model. All car manuals are like that so the person looking at the manual know exactly what it is.

Chevrolet shows possesion followed by what is possessed... you just backed up my argument.

You cant win when noone will accept the simple little things about it...

The arguement really has no end...

there are those who take facts to what they want them to mean and then others who take the same facts to what they want them to mean...

All the cars made are from GM. It doesnt really matter what SUBcompany made them. They are all GM...


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Face it, the Beaumonts/Acadians are the GM bastard stepchildren. SD like a Pontiac, instead of Chevy's SS models, but with chevy engines? That isn't a Pontiac OR Chevy, it is a GM mix-breed.
All Canadian built Pontiacs had Chevy engines and chassis. Canadian Pontiac models were named differently from the US models. In the sixties the full size Canadian Pontiacs were Strato chief, Laurentian and Parisienne. In the US they were Catalina Ventura and Bonneville.
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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

What are the Beaumont Acadian owners trying to accomplish with figuring out who is the creator?

What are the reasons for the cars being Pont?
What are the reasons for the cars being not Pont?
Do you want them to be Chevy?

What are the reasons for this disagreement?


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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

What an argument....I've read all the posts and this is what I've come up with, a Beaumont is:

Everything and nothing at the same time. I think it should be called a GM Beaumont

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What are the Beaumont Acadian owners trying to accomplish with figuring out who is the creator?

What are the reasons for the cars being Pont?
What are the reasons for the cars being not Pont?
Do you want them to be Chevy?

What are the reasons for this disagreement?
This is the whole topic of this thread. Acadians and Beaumonts were built in Canada because in the sixties the big three had to have some cars built in Canada to satisfy the government. GM Canada used existing tooling to create a midsize car for the Canadian market. It was a hodge podge of parts. Basically a Chevy body with the interior from a Pontiac and Chevy drive train. The exterior trim was made specifically for these cars and hard to find now. These cars have a specific VIN number, I think the first digit is seven or eight (I think it depends on the year and series) that was not used by any other GM division. This is where the origin questions start. Generally these cars were sold by Pontiac dealers but from this thread I have learned that there were also specific Acadian Beaumont dealers also in some parts of Canada. I grew up when these cars were new and always considered them Pontiacs, I have also owned a couple. Both my cars were titled as Pontiacs, but they were both sold new by Pontiac dealers. I wonder if an Acadian dealer sold the car new, if it would have been titled Acadian?
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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

when asked, i state ; it's a g.m - beauvelle- iac .


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Sooooo.

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Re: Is it a Pontiac or not?

When I looked at the photos of the dash 'moniker' at the beginning of this thread, the first think that struck me is,,,
That emblem looks for all the world like the typical low profile plastic emblems of the eighties. The kind that are applied with two-sided tape.
The texture of the letters and the font just smack of something you would see on an early eighties Phoenix or something.

I'm not at all convinced it wasn't put there by someone with thoughtfull craftmanship, after the car's tenth birthday.

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When I looked at the photos of the dash 'moniker' at the beginning of this thread, the first think that struck me is,,,
That emblem looks for all the world like the typical low profile plastic emblems of the eighties. The kind that are applied with two-sided tape.
The texture of the letters and the font just smack of something you would see on an early eighties Phoenix or something.

I'm not at all convinced it wasn't put there by someone with thoughtfull craftmanship, after the car's tenth birthday.

My 2 cents
Tom, I took those pictures and I can assure you it is embossed into the dash as I said. It is not a " sticky tape" kind of thing as you suggest! Don't you ever accuse me of ever being dishonest!

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