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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 16, 8:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

I have confirmed the numbers on the bell housing to be a 1967 396 Chevelle by looking through info on this website and I have pics of everything I'll reference here. So the numbers on the bell housing are 3902406 and thats the first picture. The second picture is from the stamp on the front of the motor behind the alternator. And those numbers are I7144551. Now the last pic is of the valve cover with a 402 badge on it... I was told that this motor was a rare because it was a 396 block punched over to a 402 from the factory with a roller top end. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say about it
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 16, 8:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

And of course the pic of the id stamp behind the alternator is blurry I might have to get a better one tomorrow by taking the alternator off...
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

Someone bought a sticker and made up a story....
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

I hope you aren't buying that story. Nothing is correct "factory" in that pic. engine painted black, tall valve cover, alternator on wrong side. You can buy stickers anywhere.
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

yeah, obviously NOT stock or original...

First, its an air cleaner decal. Second, that decal was NOT available until at least late 1969 (when Chevrolet created the "production" 402). IIRC, Chevelles still used the "396" decals and the full-size/Impalas referred to the engines as "400", so IIRC, it was the pickups that used the "402" decal...

ALL 402's are 0.030 overbored 396's... Lots of stories as to why Chevy went with the larger bore...

Roller topend? I would say 99.9% untrue... IF Chevy was going to use "roller top end" on this alleged '67 402, then why wouldn't they use it on the 427 (L88 etc) or the LS6???

As someone mentioned, the alternator is on the wrong side. Chevy didn't put the alternator on that side, OR use a "long water pump", until the 1969 model year... What purpose would that serve???

What's the other numbers stamped on the front pad (should start with "T####" etc...)


"I7144551"

I, there was NO assembly plant used the letter "I", but St Terese Canada used a "1", and sometimes "I" and "1" stamps were used interchangeably. For 1967, the only cars built at St Terese and using a 396 (###406 block casting) would be full-size cars. St Terese did NOT build Chevelles in 1967... That would probably make it a 325HP 396, 2-bolt mains with oval port heads...

Looking at the pictures

Well, assuming its got standard oval port heads (they do appear to be pre-69 heads, at least the one pictured) and two-bolt main caps (you didn't say or include other pictures), then I'd guess its worth between $200 and $1200, depending on if its running or not... It doesn't look like it, so I'd guess $200-$500 (while not correct for 1967, it may be fairly complete).

Basically, its "just" a 396... An an Impala (or truck) will need a different oil pan to fit a Chevelle.

Now IF it has the "factory" 4-bolt main block, I'd add another $750-$1000... Rectangle port heads, figure another $500+ (depends on condition and casting numbers).

Looking at the pictures, it looks like its in a truck right now...
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

Welcome Daniel, to Team Chevelle.....

Agree with the last 3 posts. Someone is feeding you a line of BS to sell you their engine. That's not to say the engine is no good, it's just not "right" with what the seller is telling you. The 402 sticker on the valve cover is just.....

That's one reason this site is great; to get correct info on a possible purchase.
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And 396-402 are not as popular as they use to be, so the prices are down.... Don't believe everything you hear and take everything with a grain of salt.
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

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And 396-402 are not as popular as they use to be, so the prices are down...


Figure a 396/402 is typically going to be less desireable and less valuable than a 454 in similar condition... Those that just have to have a "correct" 396 are not the majority...
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

Can I post some more pics of the heads for you to determine if they are rectangle port or not? If so from which angle should I take the photo? And as far as the 2 or 4 bolt mains go, I'll have to just take the oil pan off and look at them. I really appreciate all the insight! Thank you guys!
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

You could pull one or both valve covers, then post the part numbers and date code. That way you will be certain of your valve train and what heads you have.

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Can I post some more pics of the heads for you to determine if they are rectangle port or not? If so from which angle should I take the photo? And as far as the 2 or 4 bolt mains go, I'll have to just take the oil pan off and look at them. I really appreciate all the insight! Thank you guys!
Post some pictures where the intake meets the heads, between the carb and the thermostat housing. May be able to determine rectangular versus oval ports, but it depends on the intake used... you may need to pull the valve covers to get the casting number. From the angle of your previous pictures, it looks like an oval port intake and head (but not a great shot).

Also a picture of the head above the headers/exhaust but below the valve covers, mid-way down either side, right were the dip stick is... Actually, you'd be looking for a fitting in the head, right where the header flange dips in the middle. This won't determine rac/oval, but pre-69 heads do NOT have a fitting, maybe a flat boss... Later heads have a fitting for the temp guage right above the exhaust flange.. so "1967" heads won't have the fitting.

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You could pull one or both valve covers l, then post the part numbers and date code. That way you will be certain of your valve train and what heads you have.
Yeah, you could see if it NOW has a roller "topend", etc. Or if its just regular valvetrain...


4-bolt main: Not foolproof but 99+%, post a picture of the area right above the oil filter. There are some fittings there, oil pressure light/guage sending unit... Those "typically" can determine 2-bolt or 4-bolt mains (not fool proof, but never seen it vary)... 4-bolt blocks have two larger plugs/fittings for oil cooler fittings on HD blocks...


Also, get another picture of the pad behind the alternator...

There should be other numbers there beside just the "17144551" Something like "T0123 IG"... Should start with "T" followed by 4 digits, and then followed by another 2 letters (maybe 3, but doubtful)...

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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

That's an Edelbrock intake which should have a part number on it.That would tell you what intake type would be, oval or rectangle port and give a hint to what the heads are.Of course some people put ovals on rectangle so its not proof positive but if they won't let you pull a VC ....

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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

Here's a pic from between the carb and intake. The intake says its an edelbrock performer 2-0
Then I got pics of the Head casting numbers, and the center by dipstick along with the driver side.
Then pics of the remote hookups for the oil filter, and the oil pressure sending unit.
Only thing I couldn't find was any more numbers behind the alternator. I know there's no more numbers on that pad, but if they are somewhere else I could look again.
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Re: 1967 396 Chevelle with 402 badge on valve cover

Thank you guys again for your time and knowledge I own this motor its in a 1 ton truck right now with a turbo 400 3 speed automatic.
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The heads are oval port. I hope it turns out to be a decent running engine for you.

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