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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Dec 2nd, 18, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
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"69 z 28

I'm a big fan of 69 Camaro's, particularly Z28s. This is another ad that just rubs me wrong, maybe I'm getting crotchety as I get older.....
https://kansascity.craigslist.org/ct...756468948.html

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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old Dec 2nd, 18, 1:08 PM
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The seller is probably crotchety himself. Try selling one of these and all sorts of Googans come out of the woodwork. Everyone from know nothing lowballers to Z-28 experts that just want to tell you a screw is incorrect.
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You are just trading who you will hassle with, either the auction or him. I think I’d try an auction first and try to cherry pick a good deal from a car that doesn’t have a reserve. The listing says “1 owner”, but it’s not likely him. He never uses any language you would expect from someone who bought it when new. Even a couple of brief lines in the ad would help drive the price higher because you could get a more complete story upon purchase. I’d say this is a “reseller” that hasn’t put the car in his name, thus the claim of “one owner”.

Paul is right, this sellers ad leaves a bad initial impression.

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Having sold a few cars in the past 5 years, I'd probably write a similar ad.
True buyers are rare. 99% of responders are either dreamers, busy bodies, or scammers. You'll weed most of those out by being rude right out of the gate. True interested parties don't give a crap about being offended, they just want what's in the ad.
As a buyer, I have the same take, I respond with a no-nonsense interest and play by the seller's rules. Get more stuff that way.
Nice to make friends while conducting business but it certainly isn't a prerequisite.
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Nice looking car but I think the price is kind of high seeing it isn't matching numbers either.

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No photo of the cowl tag? Seems odd for someone who wants us to believe it's their one owner car. Ditto with the docs? A seller that knows their stuff knows that the Z/28s had a code on the tag...

Actually, there's very little data about the car, the ad is mostly "don't mess with me (must be a story there)."

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No photo of the cowl tag? Seems odd for someone who wants us to believe it's their one owner car. Ditto with the docs? A seller that knows their stuff knows that the Z/28s had a code on the tag...

Actually, there's very little data about the car, the ad is mostly "don't mess with me (must be a story there)."
I thought only Norwood cars can be deciphered from the cowl tag, not Van Nuys cars.

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Some very astute comments above.

I've had several very close friends and numerous casual friends who owned '69 Z/28 Camaros back in '69-'75 and some who bought such cars later on. Never owned one myself but drove many of my friends' cars and have always loved these high-revving little powerhouses...to the point I tried very hard in the summer of '16 to buy the one my brother-in-law owned back in the early '70's. It had been owned and stored by the same guy who bought it from my BIL back in 1973 and I simply wanted to see it returned to its former glory. After refusing to sell on multiple occasions the owner DID take the car from storage, clean it up and put it on the road. I have not talked to him since that time so I do not know what he has done to the car during the past year or so. Here are photos of the car: First, back in perhaps 1971 or 72 in Seattle and then (I'm told) at a private party on Bainbridge Island last summer. I do know this car has less than 25,000 miles on the odometer.
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Well I have to say that is a very good looking car. Maybe the seller is smart in stateing the conditions under which he will respond to an inquiry. Most of you know that Craigslist is a playground for those with nothing better to do and s*#t for brains. Of which many probably dont have the money to purchase.
A friend once had a car listed on Craigslist for $500.00. Was getting calls asking if he was willing to take payments.
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A friend once had a car listed on Craigslist for $500.00. Was getting calls asking if he was willing to take payments.
I listed a '76 Chev C20, good running, later Vortec 350/turbo400. No issues other than ugly.....for $500. Had maybe 50 emails with offers as low as $200. Payments, trades, and a few hard luck stories begging me to hold it for them for a lowball price.
I listed my phone numbers and stated I'd ignore anything other than a phone call. 0 phone calls for a month and 3 updated ads. Finally some young guy called, showed up, loved the truck and handed me the cash. He couldn't believe he was lucky enough to get it.
Same story with the Vega.
Come to think about it, that's exactly what happened with the '69 Malibu.
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<img src="https://www.chevelles.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /> No photo of the cowl tag? Seems odd for someone who wants us to believe it's their one owner car. Ditto with the docs? A seller that knows their stuff knows that the Z/28s had a code on the tag...

Actually, there's very little data about the car, the ad is mostly "don't mess with me (must be a story there)."
I thought only Norwood cars can be deciphered from the cowl tag, not Van Nuys cars.

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As a current owner of a 69 Z/28 I can give a little insight . Norwood cars had the " X code" making it easier to tell what they were. This is on the trim tag. Van Nuys cars did not have an X code, but with documentation, you can usually decipher what it was as well as a close inspection. It is a good looking car, with some things wrong. Shifter is not original, and the trunk stripes are too long. They should end under the spoiler. It could have been born with a flat hood if it was a early 69. He is asking top dollar for a all original Z, with like mentioned replacement block. Car would bring $40K at best to a educated Camaro person. He should show a trim tag picture, and under side pictures if he wants to bring anything close to his asking price. Sounding like a Jerk would turn me off even if I was looking for one. He needs to keep in mind, no one needs to buy his car. Attached is a pic of mine with Stacy David.
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post #12 of 19 (permalink) Old Dec 3rd, 18, 5:58 AM
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One other thing he said that is wrong, if he wants to sell it to someone who lives more than 100 miles from him is that "I WON'T SEND ANY MORE PICS, COME LOOK AT HE CAR. IF IT'S NOT EVERYTHING I SAY IT IS I'LL PAY YOU $50."

So, if you live 1,000 miles from him and you want to see a picture of the documentation, trim and vin tags before you pop $400 for a flight, he isn't gong to send them to you? And, he will only pay you $50?

He should have a hundred pics ready he can send to you, even picture hunters. It isn't any skin off his nose to send them. You know right away who is asking for them, but so what? It doesn't cost anything and really doesn't take much time. He is asking TD for the car, so be prepared to spend some time answering dumb AND real questions.

Just my 0.02.....grr

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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old Dec 3rd, 18, 9:23 AM
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Reading his way of posting a car for sale, I wouldnt even give him my time. You should have an nice approach if you want to sell something. There are people everywhere running ads and getting insane replies. Its the way it is. If you dont want to bother with people, dont list it.
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That ad doesn't bother me a bit. I have no problem with wording like that.
If I wanted a 69 Z/28 in that color combo and it fit my budget I would call the seller.
If I get what I want at the price I want to pay, I don't care how the seller comes across. I'm not out looking for friends.


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post #15 of 19 (permalink) Old Dec 3rd, 18, 1:01 PM
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I dont really mind the way the ad reads. I would probably get along ok with this guy....lol. I think he knows he is kind of shooting for the moon price-wise, and i think the craigslist ad is his second or third avenue for selling the car, meaning he is feeling his buyer will come from another avenue, and doesnt want the normal craigslist BS.

I once had an ad up on Craigslist for a window shaker A/C. I was very blunt with the ad. In the ad, i wrote "just tell me what time you are coming to pick it up, and bring me $100."

First reply - "i will be there are 4 pm" worked like a charm, guy was there at 4 pm, handed me a hundo, and put the thing in his trunk. normally i wouldnt post an item of such little value, but you cant just throw an air conditioner away these days, and it did work.

I understand my A/C unit is different than a first gen camaro, but i can relate to what the guy is doing.
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