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post #1 of 148 (permalink) Old Dec 28th, 16, 8:42 PM Thread Starter
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My 65 LS Swap Project

Hey all, just getting started on my semi attempt at Pro Touring..... 65 has been to several different iterations over the years, 2 small blocks and 2 big blocks to be exact.


Current plans are :
Used L92 with cam
T56 Magnum 6 speed with LS7 clutch
Holley FI system, DBW
A lot of Holley swap components
Vintage air A/C
RideTech air suspension
Upgraded sound system
Custom console with cup holders and tablet dock.. Going to try and make it fit into the stockish interior
Two tone exterior, hot rod black above beltline and gloss red below.
Exterior trim and chrome painted silver


Super excited to get started on this, credit card is going to be smoldering!


First question I have is about wiring harness. I want to install new harness that has integrated spots for the A/C, Ridetech and other possible add ons but haven't seen anything like this at Painless or American Autowire. The FI will have its own stand alone engine harness so would like the new chassis harness not have the engine wiring. Is there such a thing? Or will I have to buy an expanded circuit harness and remove the engine side terminals from the fuse box?

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post #2 of 148 (permalink) Old Dec 28th, 16, 11:49 PM
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I did a Painless harness in my car about 15 years ago. It was a 12 circuit street legal race car harness, and included at least 2 additional circuits beyond what was original to the car for accessories. I've heard good things about AAW, might be a good idea to check with their tech guys about what you have in mind. Beyond that, check with Rebel Wiring and Kwikwire, each I've also either used or seen highly recommended.

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Hey all, just getting started on my semi attempt at Pro Touring..... 65 has been to several different iterations over the years, 2 small blocks and 2 big blocks to be exact.


Current plans are :
Used L92 with cam
T56 Magnum 6 speed with LS7 clutch
Holley FI system, DBW
A lot of Holley swap components
Vintage air A/C
RideTech air suspension
Upgraded sound system
Custom console with cup holders and tablet dock.. Going to try and make it fit into the stockish interior
Two tone exterior, hot rod black above beltline and gloss red below.
Exterior trim and chrome painted silver


Super excited to get started on this, credit card is going to be smoldering!


First question I have is about wiring harness. I want to install new harness that has integrated spots for the A/C, Ridetech and other possible add ons but haven't seen anything like this at Painless or American Autowire. The FI will have its own stand alone engine harness so would like the new chassis harness not have the engine wiring. Is there such a thing? Or will I have to buy an expanded circuit harness and remove the engine side terminals from the fuse box?

If you ever have any suspension questions feel free to let me know. I will be more than happy to help. Good luck with the build!
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Re: My 65 LS Swap Project

Sounds like a good build. You have a catchy user name

I am going with the AAW wiring and am hopefully integrating the vintage air with the dakota digital system...someday I will get to that point in the build.

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post #5 of 148 (permalink) Old Dec 29th, 16, 12:22 PM
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If you want a truly custom wiring system then try the Ron Francis Express wiring system.

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Re: My 65 LS Swap Project

After much more research and a few phone calls looks like I'll be buying an American Autowire complete chassis harness and just use the Holley supplied stand alone harness for the engine management. The AA harness has all the connector ends already installed, has extra circuits for aftermarket accessories and is as much plug and play as I can get.

Called Painless and they don't offer a direct fit chassis harness with the expanded feature fuse box to handle all the add on functions like A/C, power windows etc... and don't have any plans to do so for 64-67 models. They do for 68 chevelle and up. surprised as I would have thought 66-67 builds were far more popular than a 68 or 69. Oh well, they're missing the boat.

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Hi all, update time!

Bought a bunch of parts over the last month and got busy this last week cutting the floorpan/trans tunnel for the T-56. My friends at the local machine shop loaned me a 5.3L block that I could use for mock up of the drivetrain.

I ended up buying a complete trans kit from Modern Driveline as they truly had a complete offering down to the clutch/brake pedals. Nice stuff and good folks to deal with. I also bought the Holley swap kit that included the trans crossmember, motor mount frame stands and 302-2 oil pan. I went with the forward bias frame stands as I was hoping to avoid cutting so much out of the tunnel and by looking at the Holley instructions assumed the forward bias was the way to go. didn't work out that way as I still had to cut out most of the stock tunnel. I started off with a small cutout but it was way too small so ended up with whats shown in the pic.

Also learned that with the pan on I will have to install the the motor less bell housing and clutch as the forward bias mounts place the sump really close to the crossmember. Had to fight getting it to fit in with the trans on as shown in the pics. Gouged up the firewall some with the severe angle I had to go with to get it slipped in. Undercoat will cover up my sins! Good to learn now though.

Next step is patching in a new tunnel. I'll take pics of that as I progress along.
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post #9 of 148 (permalink) Old Mar 12th, 17, 10:56 PM
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Looking good!
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post #10 of 148 (permalink) Old Mar 13th, 17, 8:00 AM
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Re: My 65 LS Swap Project

Great update.

I can't believe how good your floor boards look.

Could you raise the front end some to get the angle less for the motor and trans to slide into the engine bay together? Or maybe lift all 4 corners to get some height off the floor for the trans to swing down and into position?

Thanks for the update, gets me motivated to get moving on mine.
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Looks like you got your wiring already next time consider ezwiring. My kit was only 180 and had 20 circuits enough to add anything you want. It's just a fuse box with a ton of wire that's enough to do the entire car. Original terminal ends are cheap just reuse the plastic connector ends seems crazy to pay the extra grand for something that comes with 20 dollars worth of terminal ends and requires a small amount of extra labor.

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Thanks!

I had patched and painted the floor about 15 years ago, looked pretty good when I peeled off the sound deadner! So nice not to deal with rust for a change.

Maybe a little of both would do the trick. I'll experiment when I pull it out. Since I don't have cylinder heads on I'd be a little worried about those hitting the firewall.

Going to start actively looking for a L92 over the next couple of weeks. Also need to get my Vintage Air on order, that'll be the next item to install after the floor is done.

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I was going to ask if you had found an L92 yet or not. You answered my question! Good luck with that search.

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Been looking at Car-Part.com, many in the $3500 range and not to far away. Have a local guy who does alot of LS swaps and am going to contact him this week to see if he has any or a source.

Also I got the clutch from Modern Driveline in the kit. Read too many cons on the LS7 clutch to opt for it.

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Did you go with the RST or RXT McLeod clutch?

Might want to check out LS1Tech for engines, one might pop up that is what you want.

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