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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 19, 3:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Working on purchasing a 70 SS 396 not a number matching car. Appears to have the correct features to make it an SS. The car is missing the trim tag, what are my options in getting it replaced or is that even possible? Have not found the build sheet either
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Check the VIN and I would also check the CONVIN locations to make sure you won't have any issues in registering/titling the vehicle. Do this before you sink a ton of cash into just to find out it is stolen.
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Working on purchasing a 70 SS 396 not a number matching car. Appears to have the correct features to make it an SS. The car is missing the trim tag, what are my options in getting it replaced or is that even possible? Have not found the build sheet either

You can probably find someone who will make you a trim tag. Question is, what would you put on it?


A caution, in some states it is a felony to remove/replace a trim tag. Check your state laws.
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Replacing the trim cowl tag is no big deal. Its messing with a vin tag that could amount to a problem
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If it is a real SS and the tag is missing, it was probably cloned onto another car. I would search for the actual vin and make sure another car isn't already registered with it.

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I've used them to reproduce some rotted or damaged Trim tags.

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Replacing the trim cowl tag is no big deal. Its messing with a vin tag that could amount to a problem
Replacing a trim tag in Oklahoma is a felony.
Check your state laws to avoid serious problems.

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The trim tag has nothing to do with the vin tag or vin number. it is not a felony to discard or replace them or the companies re popping them wouldn't exist
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post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 19, 11:07 AM
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But to me, why would anyone ever remove it? Even on a high dollar restoration, I wouldn't remove it. If it is removed, and gone, I would assume it is on another car.
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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 19, 11:14 AM
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In NY, that's a dont mess with it car..... unless someone can explain why a cowl tag isnt a trim tag isnt a VIN.

"Important information about vehicle identification numbers
In an effort to protect consumers, the Department of Motor Vehicles would like to inform you about New York State laws pertaining to vehicle identification numbers (also called VINs).

It is against the law to possess a motor vehicle or any part of a motor vehicle that has a vehicle identification number that is

destroyed
altered
defaced
concealed
removed
Law enforcement will seize (or confiscate) any motor vehicle or motor vehicle part that is determined to have an altered or missing identification number. The municipality where the ‘unidentifiable’ motor vehicle or part is seized can sell the vehicle or part at a public auction."


It may be kosher where you are nova, but it should mean a rock bottom price on very undocumented car. That can never be properly doc'd. So akin to like drag car/no title pricing.

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Unless I lived in Oklahoma I wouldn't worry about it myself but I would make sure that the VIN tag was correct.
(As we've read on here, Oklahoma is the only state where removing a cowl tag is illegal.)

BTW, If you order a replacement cowl tag, how do you know exactly what to have them put on it?

This reminds me of something that happened to me a couple of times;

Two different times I was called for a second opinion of central air-conditioners (or just their compressors) needing to be replaced to find the tags had been removed from the compressor by previous service techs so no compressor information could be obtained by my guy.

Both times, the previous service tech said he couldn't read it so he needed to get it out so he could hold it in his hand to read it.
I said OK, but why did you take it with you rather than leave it with the unit?

The reason I said all that is because a tag on a compressor looks a lot like the cowl tag on a vehicle so MAYBE it was removed for the same reason.
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The trim tag has nothing to do with the vin tag or vin number. it is not a felony to discard or replace them or the companies re popping them wouldn't exist
It depends on the State involved. Some states DO have fairly restrictive statutes in effect that would affect your future.
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But to me, why would anyone ever remove it? Even on a high dollar restoration, I wouldn't remove it. If it is removed, and gone, I would assume it is on another car.
I saw a high buck shop ($150 per hour Shop Rate 17 - 18 years ago) that removed a Trim Tag to do a major restoration on a one-owner "L-code" '69 Chevelle. The Tag was never replaced, and never missed by the owner, until a Car Show Judge dinged the owner for it being missing.

I think it must have grown legs and walked off.
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In NY, that's a dont mess with it car..... unless someone can explain why a cowl tag isnt a trim tag isnt a VIN.

"Important information about vehicle identification numbers
In an effort to protect consumers, the Department of Motor Vehicles would like to inform you about New York State laws pertaining to vehicle identification numbers (also called VINs).

It is against the law to possess a motor vehicle or any part of a motor vehicle that has a vehicle identification number that is

destroyed
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removed
Law enforcement will seize (or confiscate) any motor vehicle or motor vehicle part that is determined to have an altered or missing identification number. The municipality where the ‘unidentifiable’ motor vehicle or part is seized can sell the vehicle or part at a public auction."


It may be kosher where you are nova, but it should mean a rock bottom price on very undocumented car. That can never be properly doc'd. So akin to like drag car/no title pricing.
Whereas some brands include the VIN on the Trim Tags, GM, in the `60's did not. Federal Statutes don't pertain to the Tag we're discussing, HOWER, some states do prohibit removal, altering, etc. the tag.

Always check your state's laws.
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 19, 4:11 PM
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Re: Trim tag

You guys are reading that law wrong.

Read it

s l o w l y

It states you cant own a vehicle with those issues.

There are laws that state you can remove it for restoration purposes. Restorers do it all the time.

As long as that vin goes back on that car
Or
A vin is assigned to that car.

The law posted even talks about confiscation and reselling it.

We've been through this over and over.
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