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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 17, 3:57 PM Thread Starter
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67 wanting brighter headlights

Put some halogens in this many yrs ago...while a little better than the old stuff still lame

Dont need 'instant daylight" but these need help

Whats out there that fits the bucket and doesnt need some special electrical mods?
(super ignorant there)

Not sure I want a goofy futuristic look just something noticabley brighter

If theres a plug and play deal mfr and part number would be great. Dont want to overload some wires, switch and have an issue
At some point there will be an 8-9 hr long night drive and dont feel like straining the eyes .

Tried seaching couldnt come up with anything solid

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 17, 4:02 PM
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Re: 67 wanting brighter headlights

Have you looked at these, from Ausley's? 1964-1970 Halo Headlights
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post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 17, 4:22 PM
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Re: 67 wanting brighter headlights

Not sexy lights, but just good lights...Lighting Products

Plug n play relay set up for quad headlights...https://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-H6054ST-...-/331754751905

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Re: 67 wanting brighter headlights

https://www.chevelles.com/forums/27-e...t-upgrade.html

Halogen headlights are usually bright enough. Many of us with older cars do not realize their brightness due to old, corroded or high wire resistance in our systems. A relatively simple upgrade is to install relays in our systems so we see full voltage and max usable current at the headlights.

Using any other super duper headlight will also require a relay supply system. So start here and see the difference before throwing top dollar headlights into a deteriorated electrical system.

Halogen headlights do get tired and throw less light as they age. So a set of new halogens may help along with the relay headlight system.
Catalog Read this from MAD Electrical for more info.
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Halogen headlights are usually bright enough. Many of us with older cars do not realize their brightness due to old, corroded or high wire resistance in our systems. A relatively simple upgrade is to install relays in our systems so we see full voltage and max usable current at the headlights.

Using any other super duper headlight will also require a relay supply system. So start here and see the difference before throwing top dollar headlights into a deteriorated electrical system...
Solid advise here. ^^^^^
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I run relays with halogen headlights in my 66. The addition of relays alone made my headlights approximately 50% brighter than without. More than enough light and much whiter light.
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post #7 of 30 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 17, 9:01 PM
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Several things come to mind. Relays are a must in my opinion. If your halogen headlights are the Hella or Cibie style, you can upgrade to "off road" bulbs of varying wattage. This works for both high and low beams. Back in the 70's we used to go to the airplane parts store and get Cessna 100 series "aircraft landing lights" for our high beams. they fit the 4 headlight configuration (4x5.75) and throw out an incredible amount of light for cheap. Kinda ghetto but it worked.
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Several things come to mind. Relays are a must in my opinion. If your halogen headlights are the Hella or Cibie style, you can upgrade to "off road" bulbs of varying wattage. This works for both high and low beams. Back in the 70's we used to go to the airplane parts store and get Cessna 100 series "aircraft landing lights" for our high beams. they fit the 4 headlight configuration (4x5.75) and throw out an incredible amount of light for cheap. Kinda ghetto but it worked.
This is what I ran on my first 68 'camino, back in the mid 70's. 1,000,000 candle power would throw a beam about a mile. I'm afraid they are pretty much illegal, but, you sure could see a looooooonnnnggg way!

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Re: 67 wanting brighter headlights

cant remember the brand they were bought a long time ago
All wiring is brand new..if I need to add something to the wiring what/where? dont want to hurt the system.

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Just so you know, The headlights get the leftover voltage from inside the car, I agree with Mark. I wired in Two eight dollar relays from Advance and my Sylvania Halogens are 50-60% brighter, WHY?
My four headlights NOW get DIRECT BATTERY VOLTAGE. Also, Now I use my dimmer on the dash lights, WHY? The dash lights will be brighter with relays.
The Pos. wire comes across the core support to the relays, from the core support the headlight wire travels about 6" to the headlights. And YES with the relays the Halogens give off a VERY WHITE LIGHT.
Bottom line is this, For about $16.00 dollars and three hours of time you will have VERY BRIGHT LIGHTS.
Side note: When a car is coming at you at night with his, Blue or Bright Whites, Hit the dimmer switch ( All it does now is trigger the relays) and give him " 4 " White Halogens,,,,TRUST me The other guy will use his dimmer switch to get back to his low beams.
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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 17, 10:52 PM
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Re: 67 wanting brighter headlights

I just replaced all 4 headlights on my 69 with halogens. Not nearly enough light with low beams, good light with high beams. What relays are you knowledgeable guys referring to ?

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Catalog <Mad relay kit
part # RLY-1 $24.00(price may not be accurate)



MAD Electrical offers a kit that contains the parts you will need. You will need 2 kits, one for high beams and one for low beams. The kit also contains a wiring diagram to make it easier to hook up. When completed, it's barely noticeable. see picture. That's the horn relay area just behind the left headlight inside the engine compartment.

Want to save some money? Assemble a kit yourself and supply 2 relays, a relay block wire harness, a fusible link in 18 gauge or 30- 40 amp maxi inline fuse and holder, and 12 gauge wire for most runs and 10 gauge to run directly to the battery.(If you hook to the horn relay, you can negate the 10 gauge run to the battery if your cable to the battery is in good shape. I don't think this is included in the MAD kit) Make sure your battery cables are clean and all your ground cables are clean. All connectors to lights should be clean as well.

I'll post a wiring diagram for a 4 light system when I find one.......... Maybe post some parts from Amazon that you could use....
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Thank you, that will do it!
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The relays will go a long way toward making your lights brighter plus take the strain off of wiring not rated or intended to feed halogen lights. I am a huge fan of the "off road" H4/H2 bulbs. They work well and will give you all the light you need.

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The relays will go a long way toward making your lights brighter plus take the strain off of wiring not rated or intended to feed halogen lights. I am a huge fan of the "off road" H4/H2 bulbs. They work well and will give you all the light you need.
I love those lights. I use the Hella brand conversion headlights on my Peterbilt. I upgraded to higher wattage lights, not exactly street legal but the Hellas have such good optics and sharp cutoff line that I never get flashed, but the system would not handle the extra draw of the lights. So I put together a relay system to draw power directly from the buss bar. Problem solved.

I still have not done this to my Chevelle, but it's on the list.

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