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post #1 of 91 (permalink) Old Feb 20th, 18, 8:42 AM Thread Starter
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'72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

Joined the wagon club over the weekend. Picking it up Wednesday. Like the title says it's a 72 Greenbrier wagon. Still has the original paint/ interior and sheet metal. The cowl hood is the only thing changed. Factory a/c car (removed). Hope to get that going again.

Originally a 307 car. Now it's a 454, 700r4, 12 bolt with 3:73's. Runs great! Going to make a nice driver out of it.

Mechanically it's pretty much done. Most everything on the motor is new, trans rebuilt, new shocks and springs.

Needs a bit of bodywork at some point. The rear compartment panel needs replaced along with the spare tire area. Inside of tailgate needs some work. Some surface rust around the rear side windows, fender lips and roof is about it.
Pretty solid car overall.

Seat bottoms need recovered and new carpet. Headliner and dash look in great shape. Power rear window still works.

Should be fun!
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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

Sweet wagon! Welcome!

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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

Hey George, we're wagon brothers...!!

Very good looking wagon, love the Torq Thrusts.
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Nice wagon
Thanks, heading out to get it shortly.

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T-350, PTC 9" converter, 12 bolt, spool, 3.90 gears, MT ET R 275/60/15

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Sweet wagon! Welcome!
Thanks. Looking forward to it!

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3580 #, Carbed 6.0l LS swap in process
T-350, PTC 9" converter, 12 bolt, spool, 3.90 gears, MT ET R 275/60/15

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125 [email protected]
383 Mud Motor- [email protected]
100 shot [email protected]
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Hey George, we're wagon brothers...!!

Very good looking wagon, love the Torq Thrusts.
Thanks. Ive been reading thru some of your posts. I have a set of ralleys that were on my 71. May see if they fit. The backs are 15-10 5.5 bs and 295/50/15s. Fronts are 15x8 235/60/15s I think. Both are cool though.
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Been checking things on the wagon. The pass side is an 1-1/2 higher than the driver side. Previous owner installed new stock springs. I think they are not clocked the way they are supposed to be. So thats where I will start.
Even with the air shocks lowered the rear sits high. I have some other sets of springs I can try.
Gonna need to get a 15x8 set of wheels with the correct backspace. These 15x8-1/2 with 3.75 backspace just aint getting it. Tried my ralleys, but not really digging the look.
Front is high as well, but will put some miles on it first and see how they settle.
Body bushings are original, gonna be fun there.
Frame and floors look great other than the tool compartment and spare tire.
Someone removed the front seat brackets and moved the seat back... trying to find some seat brackets now. Gotta start somewhere!
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T-350, PTC 9" converter, 12 bolt, spool, 3.90 gears, MT ET R 275/60/15

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383 Mud Motor- [email protected]
100 shot [email protected]
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post #10 of 91 (permalink) Old Mar 4th, 18, 10:04 AM
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The passenger side sits 1 1/2" higher on my wagon too. Thought it might be the springs but after replacing them same issue. Checked everything possible but could not find a reason for the difference. My theory is since there is no spare tire and jack and the battery was moved to the drivers side it may have contributed to the difference. A 3/4" spacer was placed under the drivers side spring to even the ride height. Unfortunately the new front springs settled too much and will need replaced again. They are MOOG 5372 and will be replaced with MOOG 5536 soon. That will make 3 sets of front springs, hopefully the 5536 will be the last. The rear springs were replaced 3 times too before getting the ride height I wanted. These are NAPA 2775165, ride quality and height are perfect. They are variable rate and with the car loaded with people, luggage, 3 ice chests, chairs, tools, cleaning supplies and an EZ UP for the trip to Goodguys last November the ride height only went down about 3/4" in the back and still rode great. Using NAPA OESpectrum shocks all around.

I see in the photos you also have rust around the rear side glass and the tailgate same as mine had. In the tailgate the inner brace collects dirt and moisture causing the rust. The storage well under the floor was rusted so was the spare tire well, I was lucky and found a replacement for the storage area online and the spare tire well was repairable.

Send me a PM, I have a parts car that has some of what you are needing.
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dig those wagons always had a cool look to them...big enough to be functional but not a tank

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The passenger side sits 1 1/2" higher on my wagon too. Thought it might be the springs but after replacing them same issue. Checked everything possible but could not find a reason for the difference. My theory is since there is no spare tire and jack and the battery was moved to the drivers side it may have contributed to the difference. A 3/4" spacer was placed under the drivers side spring to even the ride height. Unfortunately the new front springs settled too much and will need replaced again. They are MOOG 5372 and will be replaced with MOOG 5536 soon. That will make 3 sets of front springs, hopefully the 5536 will be the last. The rear springs were replaced 3 times too before getting the ride height I wanted. These are NAPA 2775165, ride quality and height are perfect. They are variable rate and with the car loaded with people, luggage, 3 ice chests, chairs, tools, cleaning supplies and an EZ UP for the trip to Goodguys last November the ride height only went down about 3/4" in the back and still rode great. Using NAPA OESpectrum shocks all around.

I see in the photos you also have rust around the rear side glass and the tailgate same as mine had. In the tailgate the inner brace collects dirt and moisture causing the rust. The storage well under the floor was rusted so was the spare tire well, I was lucky and found a replacement for the storage area online and the spare tire well was repairable.

Send me a PM, I have a parts car that has some of what you are needing.
Thats interesting about the ride height. We also thought about the spare tire/ jack. My battery is on the pass side.
I did some measuring today. First with the rear on jackstands. 29-3/4 dr front...30-5/8 pass front.
Swapped in a set of 2771962 HD springs that were too high in the 71.
Dr fr....27-3/4
Pass fr....29-1/2
Dr rear...23-7/8
Pass rear...25-1/8

Then put in the 1 spacer that was on the shelf.
Dr fr...28-1/8
Pass fr...29
Dr rear...25
Pass rear...25-1/8

I dont think these rear springs are going to work with 275/60/15, but with 295/50/15 they arent bad. The air shocks hardly have any air in them. With the other springs they were way higher even with no air.

Will look into those springs you are running.

Will shoot you a pm.
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post #13 of 91 (permalink) Old Mar 5th, 18, 10:23 AM
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George the most accurate measurement when checking for height differences is from the center of the spindle or axle to the wheel opening. Measuring from the floor or ground could be affected by uneven surface or even tire pressure.

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George the most accurate measurement when checking for height differences is from the center of the spindle or axle to the wheel opening. Measuring from the floor or ground could be affected by uneven surface or even tire pressure.
I have been measuring from the garage concrete floor thru the center of the wheel to the wheel well opening.

I will give your method a try next time I'm messing with it.

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T-350, PTC 9" converter, 12 bolt, spool, 3.90 gears, MT ET R 275/60/15

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Did you put the spacer in the rear spring? I put one under the drivers side front spring. In the front a 3/4" spacer will raise the height 1 1/2".

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