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post #61 of 91 (permalink) Old May 26th, 18, 8:50 PM Thread Starter
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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

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i have been reading all this since I just picked up a 72 Nomad. Have any of you looked at the springs Speedway Motors sells for stock cars? they have lots a different spring rates.
Congrats on the Nomad!

I havent checked them for springs. The moog site has alot to choose from as well. Lots to sort thru!

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post #62 of 91 (permalink) Old May 28th, 18, 1:00 AM Thread Starter
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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

Okay, left the wagon sit on all 4’s over nite to look at it with fresh eyes. Took some measurements.

Dr fr...28-1/8 Pass fr...28-3/4

Dr rear... 25-1/5. Pass rear....26

Still have the 1” spacer in the rear. Thought I would shoot for the fender lip at the top of the tire for now. Just in case they decide to settle.

Started with the pass side front wanting to drop 1-3/4” so I took it down 7/8”. Orig height was 15-1/2”. Ended up cutting just about one coil.

Drivers side wanted to drop it 1-1/8” so took it down 9/16”. Original height was 15-5/8”. Ended up cutting about 3/4th a coil.

After getting it back together with all the control arms loose and bouncing the front end a bunch, here is where it landed....

Dr fr....26-3/4” Pass fr.....27”
Dr rear 25-7/8 Pass rear...25-3/4

Still have the rear spacer in the dr rear. It looks much better to me now. Also not as spongy feeling, but not harsh / stiff. I guess with the aluminum intake, headers, aluminum radiator and no a/c stuff was enough weight out to make the front end crazy high. With plans for aluminum heads/ water pump down the road, would make it higher still.

Ended up ordering all new UMI rear control arms / frame braces instead of messing with the old stuff. Works well on the 71.
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post #63 of 91 (permalink) Old Jul 2nd, 18, 2:27 PM
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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

what rear springs do you have? that height looks good.
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post #64 of 91 (permalink) Old Jul 4th, 18, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
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what rear springs do you have? that height looks good.
The rears are Napa 2771962 HD springs. Bought them originally for the 71, but they sat way too high. I like the stance, not sure if they will be enough for a load in the back. Always coukd put some air in the shocks.

Also still has the 1” spacer in the drivers rear....
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post #65 of 91 (permalink) Old Jul 4th, 18, 12:27 PM
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thanks. I will try them. why do you think you need a spacer on one side, why is the car sitting leaning without it?

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post #66 of 91 (permalink) Old Jul 4th, 18, 4:55 PM Thread Starter
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thanks. I will try them. why do you think you need a spacer on one side, why is the car sitting leaning without it?
When I first got this, noticed the pass side sat much higher front and rear. Phillip said his was the same. Ive seen pics of others and they also appear to sit higher. I coukdnt see anything bent/ worn etc. still has orig body mounts, but dont look bad.

The spacer made it close enough to even. Also trimming abit more in the pass front vs drivers front evened out the front.

Maybe its due to the gas tank being on the drivers side and no spare tire/ jack in pass side? Also the a/c stuff being removed may have something to do with it?

Does yours sit level?

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yes, all of my wagons have always sat level without spacers. and I have had too many to count

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yes, all of my wagons have always sat level without spacers. and I have had too many to count
Interesting. First I thought the front springs weren’t seated in the pockets correctly. Removed and replaced them with no real difference. It doesnt appear to have been wrecked or taken apart at any time.

I see alot of them in pics that look higher on one side.

Its all good now though.

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Hey George thought I would update my spring situation. Installed bigger wheels and tires and had a rub issue in the front. Installed big block wagon springs and the issue went away. Sits a little higher, about an inch, but the ride is so much better. No more floating.

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post #70 of 91 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 18, 8:44 PM Thread Starter
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Hey George thought I would update my spring situation. Installed bigger wheels and tires and had a rub issue in the front. Installed big block wagon springs and the issue went away. Sits a little higher, about an inch, but the ride is so much better. No more floating.
Nice Phillip! Which ones did you use? Still keep the spacers?

Mine is just about ready for some road testing. Had to take the intake off and have it planed. It was warped and not sealing a couple cylinders. Fixed a bit of wiring too.

Getting closer anyway!
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Ok got the front suspension, springs done....fixed up some underhood wiring bugs that needed attention....fixed the engine smoking/ rich smelling issue by getting the intake manifold surfaced (it was warped) and new intake gaskets. Car starts super easy, cool and not stinky anymore!

Next up is to fix the front seat bottom....I'm not sure what it is I need. Noone has any "wagon" seat covers and seat foam listed? Where should I be looking?

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Ok got the front suspension, springs done....fixed up some underhood wiring bugs that needed attention....fixed the engine smoking/ rich smelling issue by getting the intake manifold surfaced (it was warped) and new intake gaskets. Car starts super easy, cool and not stinky anymore!

Next up is to fix the front seat bottom....I'm not sure what it is I need. Noone has any "wagon" seat covers and seat foam listed? Where should I be looking?
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Thanks, will give them a look..

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Nice Phillip! Which ones did you use? Still keep the spacers?

Getting closer anyway!
Moog 5536, yes kept the spacers.
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Moog 5536, yes kept the spacers.
Finally got to take a short drive! Had an issue with it spitting and sputtering driving down the road. Idle down the drive it was fine. Putting the pedal down a bit, it would miss and sputter terrible. Ended up being something to do with the vac advance. Unhooked and capped it off and all was fine. Either hose is bad or advance is bad.

Driving it was ok. Pretty floaty still. Also a bit fumey. Need to find out where the tailpipes are supposed to exit. These are right behind the rear wheels but under the car on each side.

Was fun going for a drive!

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