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post #16 of 91 (permalink) Old Mar 5th, 18, 5:29 PM Thread Starter
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Did you put the spacer in the rear spring? I put one under the drivers side front spring. In the front a 3/4" spacer will raise the height 1 1/2".
Yes the drivers rear. It was a 1 that I had on the shelf.

The pic in your sig, are those the NAPA rear springs?

What size rear tires you running? Currently Im thinking the 295s are too wide looking, leaning towards getting the 15x8 torque thrusts with the correct backspace and putting the 275/60s back on.

I also got the #s off the rear...

Rvc 13 1 e. Need to get the others still. Looks like a 71 or 72 rear 3.31 posi rear originally.

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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

yes the NAPA rear springs. Tires are 245/45ZR17 Nitto NT555 front and rear on 17x8 wheels with 4.5" backspacing (0 offset). Do you have a photo of the rear spring spacer? Does it fit over the retainer and have another to hold the spring in place?

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yes the NAPA rear springs. Tires are 245/45ZR17 Nitto NT555 front and rear on 17x8 wheels with 4.5" backspacing (0 offset). Do you have a photo of the rear spring spacer? Does it fit over the retainer and have another to hold the spring in place?

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I don't have a pic of the spacer. The bottom is hollow and sits on the raised cup on the rear end. On the top part of the spacer is basically the same as the rears spring perch so the spring sits on it just like it would if it was sitting on the rear end. I think its aluminum, don't rmember where I got it, maybe Summit.

The rear on yours sits about where I would like this one to be. The front on mine is WAY higher right now....I was gonna put the 235/60's on the front....they looked totally too small!!

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Re: '72 Greenbrier Wagon Project

The 245's I have on the rear are probably too small, but wanted all tires the same. I'll look for the rear spring spacers. To do some minor adjustments working with the rear is a lot easier than the front.

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The 245's I have on the rear are probably too small, but wanted all tires the same. I'll look for the rear spring spacers. To do some minor adjustments working with the rear is a lot easier than the front.
This looks like the spacer I have.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sps-1627

Yes, the rear coils are much easier to deal with! Front springs scare me.

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Thanks for the link.

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dig those wagons always had a cool look to them...big enough to be functional but not a tank
Yeah I was surprised it wasn't that much bigger than my 71. Wasn't sure it would fit on the trailer at first.

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It will seem a lot bigger when sanding it down to paint, washing or waxing. Mine weighs 4525 lbs so it is heavy too, but rides like a luxury car
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Well I picked up a pair of 15x8 Torq Thrusts to match the fronts...with the more correct 4.5" backspace. Swapped the 275/60/15's on them and swapped them in place of the rally wheels. Looks better.

Also swapped the rear springs for my Napa 2771962 HD springs that I tried in the 71 briefly. They set too high in that, much lower in the wagon. Talking with a friend that works at my local NAPA, he said this came up as the stock spring for the wagon. I like the look better now, see how it settles. The front is way high, but not many miles on these springs. It seems really spongy and soft pulling it in the garage. Probably need to change that at some point, but we shall see.

Also discovered the seat adjuster lever on the side of the seat Garage light and my poor vision One side moves, but the pass side is still locked. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Also picked up a fan motor and the pass replacement inner fender, so hopefully get that switched and can start driving it soon.
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Also picked up a fan motor and the pass replacement inner fender, so hopefully get that switched and can start driving it soon.

Good luck on that replacement inner fender. Both of my AMD inner fenders fit like crap. Those two pieces were the reason for putting my car into paint jail. I got the angle grinder out and started whacking away on my car, so I had to stop myself.

I'm sure that you'll have no problem with yours though!

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the seat adjuster usually just has a wire that connects each side, should be a piece of cake to fix!
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Good luck on that replacement inner fender. Both of my AMD inner fenders fit like crap. Those two pieces were the reason for putting my car into paint jail. I got the angle grinder out and started whacking away on my car, so I had to stop myself.

I'm sure that you'll have no problem with yours though!
Uh oh....I thought the AMD was supposed to be a good fit? These are both the original plastic and its broken.

I"m not sure what are on the 71. Something generic...they don't fit all that great, but not too bad. Of course the previous owner put them on incorrectly so I had to remove the fender to get that one out...and yes, caused some paint chips!

Once I get the heater working and door lock keys made, I think it will be ready for some driving.
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the seat adjuster usually just has a wire that connects each side, should be a piece of cake to fix!
I kinda looked at it yesterday. Seems frozen up on pass side. Will look at it when I remove the seat.
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Did some work over the weekend. Blower motor install was a bust. Going to need too much work to make happen. So I will just wait snd do the aftermarket a/c instead.

Got the front springs out and working on getting the control arms out. Time to swap the bushings, put in the taller balljoints and whatever else I discover along the way. Everything is still original except for springs and shocks. Gonna have to decide on springs at some point. Way too soft and floaty of a ride for me.

Not looking forward to body bushings, but they are next. Then rear suspension.
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Body bushings are't bad to do. Loosen all of them but only remove the bolts from one side at a time. After replacing all of the bushings place 5/8" diameter rods or dowels in the alignment holes and then tighten all of the bolts.

There are 2 alignment holes on the drivers side identified by the slots in the hole on the frame. One under the cowl and the other under the rear door area mount.

From the bottom it looks like this



From the top of the frame to give you an idea of where they are at

Front



Rear



And inside the cowl mount box, under the leaves

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