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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Jan 19th, 19, 1:56 PM Thread Starter
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I have a black car. What is the best way to get the really fine scratches out?
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old Jan 19th, 19, 2:13 PM
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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

My favorite is Liquid Ebony, I haven't seen it in ages but would buy some right now if I could find it.

I've tried various methods and products it's almost silly.
My results have found the best product for me is Meguiar's G17216 Ultimate Compound. If you're confident with a true buffer that's the fastest route, but also the fastest way to damage your paint if you're not on it.

The porter cable random buffer or equivalent is what I recommend for touch up work and newbs. Much less risk of making mistakes and still performs reasonably. It's a good compromise in speed and forgiveness.

I am in no way advertising or affiliated to the product. Just a hobbiest.

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My favorite is Liquid Ebony, I haven't seen it in ages but would buy some right now if I could find it.

I've tried various methods and products it's almost silly.
My results have found the best product for me is Meguiar's G17216 Ultimate Compound. If you're confident with a true buffer that's the fastest route, but also the fastest way to damage your paint if you're not on it.

The porter cable random buffer or equivalent is what I recommend for touch up work and newbs. Much less risk of making mistakes and still performs reasonably. It's a good compromise in speed and forgiveness.

I am in no way advertising or affiliated to the product. Just a hobbiest.

How to use Meguiar's® Ultimate Compound - YouTube
That ad looks fake to me ..... The finish on that car is not as bad as the one in the
close-up .... He taped off a section for his demo, but didnt show the
comparison when he was done .... Ill stay with Griots products ....
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That ad looks fake to me ..... The finish on that car is not as bad as the one in the
close-up .... He taped off a section for his demo, but didnt show the
comparison when he was done .... Ill stay with Griots products ....
Whatever floats your boat. I gave first hand knowledge of what specific products and methods that worked well for me. The video was placed to visually represent the product.

I've used various professional products like 3M and the Ultimate Compound works just as well and is available at the Walmart. No need to pay extra for a name or shipping.
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Whatever floats your boat. I gave first hand knowledge of what specific products and methods that worked well for me. The video was placed to visually represent the product.

I've used various professional products like 3M and the Ultimate Compound works just as well and is available at the Walmart. No need to pay extra for a name or shipping.
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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

Cant say I did it on a black car but I had good luck with Meguires Swirl Remover and a Porter Cable random polisher.




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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

Sorry that I can't provide a quick one liner answer to the OP's question. It's too complex for that.


So.......



This entertaining guy has about 20 videos with recommendations on products and techniques.


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post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old Feb 13th, 19, 7:56 AM
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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

I had good luck with Mothers' Ultimate Wax system, starting with 3M Rubbing Compound on some of the deeper scratches in my Cobalt's black clear coat.

You can see a photo of the results below.

Granted, I did all the work by hand and the whole wash to polish to wax from stem to stern, inside and out, under the hood and in the trunk took me more than 60 hours of work over 12 days, but it turned out well.

If you're interested, I wrote a thirteen part series on the whole ordeal starting with the post linked below:

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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

You have a pic of the fine scratches? I did what a hobbyist might do, an orbital and some 3M fine cut. But it doesnt get all the scratches out, so I'm going to pay a pro for 2hrs of time after I strip the car of emblems.

I'd view Ryan's video above. I dont have that kind of time to spend on body alone. So $200 for a buff job trumps 60 hrs of work, to me. Yet, I did try it myself before I resigned myself to hire a "jitterbug expert". Again, I got alot out, but it is 20 yr old paint. Sometimes they need heat and abrasion to finish well, as mine does.

From then on, esp with black, be very very mindful of the cloths used to clean the car. Throw your "California Duster" away. Use micro-fibre cloth to dust, for example.
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My favorite is Liquid Ebony, I haven't seen it in ages but would buy some right now if I could find it.
Man... I forgot all about that stuff. Loaded with oils and not really a "lasting" solution, but that stuff was freakin' awesome when we used it on my Dad's dark red '63 Impala with a fresh lacquer paint job in the 1980s. A shine 8 miles deep.
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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

you said best.

"best" is taking to it to a professional and having them work on it.

As a weekend detailer myself, i'm ok.

But I've also taken it to a pro, who's better than I'll ever be

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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old Feb 13th, 19, 2:27 PM
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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

Back when I owned a 78 Corvette Pace Car, I used a product called Astro Shield and it worked wonders on the black paint and did not require buffing.

AstroShield auto polish and glaze, the original AstroShield auto polish

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Re: OK...I`ll be first.

Wow, I thought I replied to this apparently I forgot to hit the reply button.

I searched through my photos and I don't have any shots of the scratches.

I apologize.

I was on a tight deadline to get the car ready for a trip so I didn't get much opportunity to take my head out of the work and I wasn't able to take many detail shots.
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My favorite is Liquid Ebony, I haven't seen it in ages but would buy some right now if I could find it.
Hi Al, is this it: https://www.autobeautyproducts.com/product/A039.html
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The original Liquid Ebony was made by Clearbright. They went down the tubes in the late 80's. There was a guy trying to reverse engineer the formula, maybe that product you listed is the result.

I wouldn't mind trying it if they offered it a smaller size. I already own about 20 different products that I purchased to replace the Liquid Ebony. I've settled on McGuire's Ultimate Compound as a close as it gets compromise.

I still have a little liquid ebony left over. It's weird stuff. Sort of like black water in appearance and texture. When you put a drop on the paint it seems as if the paint repels it. It has a strange static like presence???

I may try to contact Abpco to see if they are willing to send a small sample and ask them if their product is similar.
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