Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel) - Chevelle Tech
Transmission & Driveline Transmissions and Differentials

 4Likes
  • 1 Post By big gear head
  • 1 Post By 70ChevelleL34SS
  • 1 Post By big gear head
  • 1 Post By 5speeds
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old May 15th, 20, 2:15 PM Thread Starter
Frank
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 9
Garage
Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

Hello: I have about 20 miles on a new input shaft in my 1970 Muncie M21. Checked it's lube and found it to be cloudy and contaminated with metal. Removed the trans and opened it up. Only damage I can find looks to be coming from the oil slinger gaulling with the front steel bearing retainer nose cone. Front bearing is seated properly on input shaft, nut is tight (with proper tool) and C-clip looks tight up against it. It's also the original nose cone, case, and gasket type. Question #1: Is the hole in the case, behind the bottom of the nose cone a lube drain or a supply? Question #2: If I accidentally failed to clock the nose cone properly, and the oil hole on the bottom case was not lined up with the corresponding indent on the nose cone, could this have caused an oil starvation issue? Any other ideas or suggestions as to what may have caused this? Thank you! -Frank
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200515_132716 (1).jpg
Views:	12
Size:	141.1 KB
ID:	626778   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200515_132803.jpg
Views:	13
Size:	83.6 KB
ID:	626780   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200515_132823.jpg
Views:	14
Size:	102.6 KB
ID:	626782  

IX.XI.MMI
NEVER FORGET!
70ChevelleL34SS is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old May 15th, 20, 2:23 PM
Senior Tech Team
Freddie
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Central City, Ky.
Posts: 9,448
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

The front bearing retainer will only bolt on one way. The hole is a drain. There are two different gaskets that can be used on the bearing retainer. Going by memory, so this might not be 100% correct, but I think one of them is .030 thick and the other is .060 thick. You may have used the thin gasket when you needed the thick one.
70ChevelleL34SS likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
big gear head is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old May 15th, 20, 4:45 PM Thread Starter
Frank
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 9
Garage
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

Hi Freddie, I took your advice and drove to Rockland Standarrd Gear Co., they make Tranzilla. Picked up a couple new gaskets. Different thicknesses. The technician there, Mike, was very, very helpful and spent time explaining to me what you described as setting the nose cone depth. Much thanks. -Frank
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200515_163413.jpg
Views:	8
Size:	42.6 KB
ID:	626798  
big gear head likes this.

IX.XI.MMI
NEVER FORGET!
70ChevelleL34SS is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old May 15th, 20, 5:54 PM
Senior Tech Team
Freddie
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Central City, Ky.
Posts: 9,448
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

I've bought a lot of parts from Rockland Standard Gear. They know their stuff. I hope this works out for you.
LeoP likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
big gear head is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old May 21st, 20, 11:35 AM
Tech Team
Paul
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Jupiter , Florida
Posts: 570
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

usually .015 & .030 thick . I always supply both in my sets.
LeoP likes this.

Thanks,

Paul Cangialosi

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
( Facebook Support )

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
( Youtube Videos)
5speeds is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 20, 9:06 AM
Lifetime Premium Member
Jeff
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: western ma.
Posts: 656
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

Cloudy fluid is usually moisture. Is there enough damage on that slinger and retainer to contaminate the fluid that much?
nitrofox is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 20, 11:31 AM
Lifetime Premium Member
leo
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southwest Florida
Posts: 13,437
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

Maybe I'm stupid or something, but doesn't the slinger go in the inside of the trans??

Leo Paugh
Maryland Chevelle Club #017
A.C.E.S.#3731
progress has little to do with speed, but lots to do with direction

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
LeoP is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 20, 3:13 PM
Lifetime Premium Member
Jeff
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: western ma.
Posts: 656
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoP View Post
Maybe I'm stupid or something, but doesn't the slinger go in the inside of the trans??
Nope, that slinger/nut acts as the front seal on a Muncie
nitrofox is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 20, 10:26 PM
Lifetime Premium Member
leo
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southwest Florida
Posts: 13,437
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

IIRC, the nut isn't a slinger and there is a left hand groove in the front bearing retainer to return the gear lube to the trans.

Leo Paugh
Maryland Chevelle Club #017
A.C.E.S.#3731
progress has little to do with speed, but lots to do with direction

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
LeoP is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old May 23rd, 20, 10:54 AM
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kenosha,Wi.
Posts: 383
Re: Gaulling oil slinger and front bearing retainer nose cone. (Steel)

The left handed groove in the front bearing retainer is from an early T-10, not a Muncie...

Hope this helps... Crash
crashent is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chevelle Tech forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address. Note, you will be sent a confirmation request to this address.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome