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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 18, 7:18 AM Thread Starter
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Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

Can someone please direct me to an image and vendor that will sale the above? What I have is a 64 GTO shifter in the car with the oem stick and it does not align properly in the hump. I want to make sure I get the correct stick for a bench seat.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 17th, 18, 9:01 AM
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

Looking back at a prior thread you started it looks like you didn't take our advice. It is not only the shifter handle but the mounting part that comes up out of the linkage itself. You would have to change both pieces or buy a complete new shifter and linkage kit. I ran into the same thing with my 71 bench seat Malibu and decided to go for a totally new shifter and linkage kit.

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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

HKalin,
No it is not that I did not take your advice, I agree with what was posted. My question is what was correct? A hurst shifter or a muncie shifter and what is the correct stick. Not what will work but was is correct from GM.
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PS if what you posted is correct then I must have misunderstood.

Thanks again
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

I had a 69 Chevelle SS brand new. I ordered the car with the 375hp motor and rock crusher transmission. The car also had a bench seat and came with a Muncie shifter not a Hurst. My current 71 Malibu had kind of the same setup as your car does now and I decided to just replace the whole thing with a new Hurst Shifter and linkage kit.

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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

Ground Up sells a Hurst shifter kit that comes with a repro Muncie shifter handle. The pictures they show are wrong though the bench seat one should show the curved handle not the straighter one. This would probably be your best bet if you want to keep the look of the muncie handle but have the better quality of the Hurst main body and linkage. Most people that had Muncie shifters in their cars switched to Hurst shifters because the Muncie linkages were junk. Here is the link to the shifter and the second one is for the bench seat handle that should be part of the Shifter kit not the one shown.

https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FHM-69.html
https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FSH-HM2.html
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

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Ground Up sells a Hurst shifter kit that comes with a repro Muncie shifter handle. The pictures they show are wrong though the bench seat one should show the curved handle not the straighter one. This would probably be your best bet if you want to keep the look of the muncie handle but have the better quality of the Hurst main body and linkage. Most people that had Muncie shifters in their cars switched to Hurst shifters because the Muncie linkages were junk. Here is the link to the shifter and the second one is for the bench seat handle that should be part of the Shifter kit not the one shown.

https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FHM-69.html
https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FSH-HM2.html
Here is what the set-up Hank is describing looks like.
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

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I had a 69 Chevelle SS brand new. I ordered the car with the 375hp motor and rock crusher transmission. The car also had a bench seat and came with a Muncie shifter not a Hurst. My current 71 Malibu had kind of the same setup as your car does now and I decided to just replace the whole thing with a new Hurst Shifter and linkage kit.
I never understood why Chevy put a Muncie shifter in the Chevelle. When they put a Hurst in the Camaro?
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Ground Up sells a Hurst shifter kit that comes with a repro Muncie shifter handle. The pictures they show are wrong though the bench seat one should show the curved handle not the straighter one. This would probably be your best bet if you want to keep the look of the muncie handle but have the better quality of the Hurst main body and linkage. Most people that had Muncie shifters in their cars switched to Hurst shifters because the Muncie linkages were junk. Here is the link to the shifter and the second one is for the bench seat handle that should be part of the Shifter kit not the one shown.

https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FHM-69.html
https://www.ss396.com/chevelle/FSH-HM2.html
Perfect! Thanks Hank, just what I was looking for. I will get the handle and put it in a Hurst Comp plus shifter I have. The OEM GTO hurst shifter and handle will sell on ebay.
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Here is what the set-up Hank is describing looks like.
I love the look of that shifter. Look forward to getting that in my car. Thanks for posting...great shot
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

Check to see how your shifter arm mounts to the shifter body. Some of the old hurst shifter arms slid into a spring loaded slot. I'm not sure a bolt on handle fits those. Jim

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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

On a 69 Chevelle, the shifter assy bolts to the transmission crossmember. That is why you can't speed shifter that muncie shifter, the shifter binds up under load(WoT). The correct factory shifter was a muncie. It states munchie on the side of the shifter. Hurst made a replacement shifter for the 69-70 chevelle to replace the muncie. It bolts to the transmission just as others previously did. It worked much better no binding.
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Re: Correct shifter and stick for a 69 Bench seat 4 speed

Hurst had two different shifters for the 69-70 chevelle's bench and console. the bench one had more curve to it.
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On a 69 Chevelle, the shifter assy bolts to the transmission crossmember. Hurst made a replacement shifter for the 69-70 chevelle to replace the muncie. It bolts to the transmission just as others previously did.
For clarification, the Hurst shifter doesnít bolt to the crossmember.
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