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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old Oct 4th, 13, 1:12 PM Thread Starter
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remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

Ok....im going crazy here.
I have new starter, alternator, voltage regulator, remote solenoid, battery, and what is happening is car basically starts when it wants to. The Remote solenoid will just click. Now this is the same setup ive had for over a year without any isssues.
Solenoid has been replaced and still does same thing.

Ignition switch? Starter not grounding to engine good enough?
Im really stumped here. If it was ignition switch would solenoid still click?
Any help is greatly apppreciated.

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

How do you have it wired Mike?

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

FWIW, I just helped someone last week with the same issue, it was a bad connection on the battery ground cable. It would work fine until high load, then it would fail, and smoke sometimes, which was how I found it.
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

Keep it in the start position for 10 seconds. Then go touch all the connections.
One is likely to be hot. That's the one that needs attention.
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

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How do you have it wired Mike?
I've got the positive cable from battery to side of solenoid where it exits the other side and connects to starter.
Small wire from starter is running up to right side small terminal
other small wire from ignition is on the other small terminal
acc wire is to first terminal where battery cable is attached

This is a high torque mini starter.

I have always had it hooked up this way....nothing different.
This clicking happens about 60% of the time.
When starter does work it is cranking slowly. Battery fully charged.
No wires are getting hot whatsoever.
I've ran this setup since August of 2012 and no problems until now.
Just wondering about a possible grounding issue perhaps.

Anybody ever had this problem????

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

From brand F experience, this is usually caused by a bad connection.

Suggest clean and retighten both ends of all the power cables, bat and ground or starter.

An easy way to to check is to simply jumper from the pos bat connection to the solenoid control terminal (ie, where the key wire connects) If this makes it crank, the power wiring should be ok, check the control circuit.

If not, start checking the power wires and grounds.

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

Even though it has been working OK, I would try running the small wire from the starter to the same terminal of the remote solenoid that the big cable to starter is connected. OR jumper from small terminal of starter to large terminal of starter.
I don't know which solenoid you're using but I assume that the starter's small terminal is connected to the "I" terminal of the remote solenoid.(which is the same as the "R" terminal on an original Chevy solenoid)

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

If the battery and all connections are good it's the starter.
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post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old Oct 7th, 13, 6:14 AM
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

Sounds like mine when i had a bad solenoid.
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post #10 of 28 (permalink) Old Oct 7th, 13, 7:38 AM
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

does it start when you jump the solenoid with a screwdriver?
have you used a test light to verify that the cable to the starter is getting power when the solenoid is activated?
is it a cheap Ford solenoid, or an HD one? like anything else, the cheap ones are cheap for a reason...

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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old Oct 7th, 13, 3:27 PM Thread Starter
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

This all kinda started when my MAD solenoid went out. It went over a year Fine. I replaced with a summit racing solenoid and noticed lower cranking speed. I now have a ford replacement solenoid. Do the Ford replacement solenoids put out less power?

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

I'm thinking if you do like I said above that you'll get more voltage to the small terminal on the starter maybe.

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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

OK, Ford solenoid works THE EXACT SAME AS THE GM ONE ON THE STARTER MOTOR DOES, batt post to starter post. Basically, both, when actuated, literally move a buss bar to the bottoms of the two bolts that are the posts for batt and starter cables.

Because the solenoid actually clicks, it is trying to actuate the buss bar into the bolts, and the buss bar IS hitting the posts inside the solenoid.

BUT, there is probably enough corrosion arcing buildup on the posts and buss bar, the connection doesn't get made, or, only partially made, some percentage of the time.

To confirm this, use a large gauge jumper wire between the two large posts on the solenoid, and see if the starter works every time the solenoid is jumper'd. If so, pull the start cable off the Ford solenoid,and install an ohm meter, scale Rx1, actuate the solenoid, read the meter. There should be no resistance loss between the batt and starter posts on the Ford solenoid. If resistance is there, and/or intermittently, the posts and buss bar are dirty/ozone coated, and good contact isn't happening.

Depending on he Ford solenoid quality, some can be carefully taken apart, the buss bar flipped over, the end post bolts turned 180 degrees, making brand new contact surfaces all over again.
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Re: remote starter solenoid just clicking....not starting

The next time it acts up have someone turn the key and whack the starter with a hammer. If it starts it's the starter solenoid.

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The next time it acts up have someone turn the key and whack the starter with a hammer. If it starts it's the starter solenoid.
That description of troubleshooting makes no sense.

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