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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old May 21st, 19, 5:17 PM Thread Starter
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Wiring harness direct fit plug and play considering major upgrades in

My 2 choices are between AAW 510105 and Painless 20130. Iíve heard the AAW is pretty good and mostly a plug and play but only 18 circuits so a bit limiting when it comes to future upgrade potential. On the other side Iíve heard that Painless has a superb kit with 26 circuits and more things than AAW however some have said itís a pain in the rear to install even though itís supposed to be plug and play. Iím looking for a very top quality product that is a plug and play deal that has good potential for adding upgrades down the road. Which one is going to be worth the money is basically the question in terms of ease of install, quality of the harness, best features, best directions for install?


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Any feedback ASAP would be great as Iím trying to order it before the end of the week so I can work on it for the 1st 2 weeks of June as my time will be limited after that.


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AAW seems to be the vendor of choice for these kits. I bought a factory duplicate harness for my 67 from Lectric Liimited, and I'm happy with it.

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M&h is excellent quality also.Customize your harness and fuse block to your request.Updated mini fuses and hei hookup or whatever you need.AAW is top quality too.Both are about the same installation wise.
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I used the AAW Classic Update harness in my 70. I can't compare it to any other brand because I had never installed a new harness before. I will say that it is very high quality and the tech support and customer service from AAW is excellent.
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My son had a 69 Camaro project that had the wiring removed and a Painless kit partially installed. When I went to work on it with him we bought a American Auto Wire and pulled out the Painless kit. there was no comparison to me between the two. I would take AAW
every time. Also great tech support.
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My son had a 69 Camaro project that had the wiring removed and a Painless kit partially installed. When I went to work on it with him we bought a American Auto Wire and pulled out the Painless kit. there was no comparison to me between the two. I would take AAW
every time. Also great tech support.
Agree, I am installing an AAW kit in my 67 Chevelle.

It has a modern fuse box with spade fuses and options for upgrades.

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I was shopping for a new harness for quite a while. I wanted a direct replacement with little to no modifications. I also considered price. The AAW classic update was almost the same price as just a stock replacement dash harness from other vendors.

I had concerns over not being able to re -use my existing new OEM style ignition and headlight switches, due to rumors I read online. I ended up calling AAW directly and fielded my questions to them. I was able to use my stock style switches and the harness went into the car with no modifications to the car.

The harness was easy to install with good directions and great technical support. I borrowed crimpers a friend bought from AAW and watched their videos on how to properly use the crimping tools.

The classic update completely replaced all of my stock wiring. The kit offered features such as ATO fuses, accessory lighting, circuits for Power windows and locks. fans, fuel pumps, electric speedo, gauges, idiot lights and accessory circuits.

Everything works great with zero complaints. I would not hesitate to use another AAW kit.
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post #9 of 33 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 19, 7:22 AM
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AAW without a doubt is a great choice.
IF you order from them, save yourself some time and buy the crimping tools at the same time. You will need them.
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Please understand, I like my AAW Classic Update wiring kit but I do have one small complaint. I had to call them to figure out where the hazard flasher relay got plugged into on the fuse panel.

Call me dense I suppose but there were no pictures or explanations for it. It plugs into the top left corner of the fuse panel and hangs off the edge. The turn signal flasher relay has a nice plastic circle that begs for it to be plugged in there.

But not the hazard flasher.

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On my AAW classic update kit there is an accessory panel/connector for additional upgrades. I believe it has room for 6 additional circuits to be run and If I recall correctly four are controlled by activating the ignition and two are battery powered.
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I used M&H Electric dash, forward lamp, engine and tail lamp harnesses when I rewired my 1965 El Camino back in 1999. Everything went back in just as the originals and worked as it should so I have no problem recommending them for stock or mildly modified applications. However, I will be using an AAW Classic Update when I finish putting the EC back together again this time as it supports (with some custom mods) my vehicle needs.

There are several good sources for vehicle wiring on the market today. I only have direct experience with M&H and have chosen AAW because of all the positive comments/experiences here on TC and AAW does have a presence on the forums providing support. That's a big plus in my book.

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AAW without a doubt is a great choice.

IF you order from them, save yourself some time and buy the crimping tools at the same time. You will need them.


Which ones? Could you perhaps find a link for me? Thanks!


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IMO there are much better choices in crimping tools. The AAW crimpers are limited to crimping one style of terminal end and they are limited in the size that you can crimp. Below is an example of a much better choice IMO. Does many more styles of terminals and many more sizes. There is also a less expensive choice that offers four sets of jaws and has the F style crimpers needed for the.AAW kit.



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Is there anything that comes with the painless kit the doesnít come with the AAW or vise versa? Like is there a reason the painless one is $400 more? I looked at the online instructions for both and I will say to me the painless one is easier for me to read and understand. Does the painless come with lamp sockets, new floor dimmer switch, new horn relay mounted under the dash,, hazards and turn signal flashers mounted on fuse panel, and a new headlight switch? Apparently AAW comes with this stuff but does painless?


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