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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Jan 8th, 19, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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Camaro wiper motor w/park

I have a 72 El Camino with factory wiper system with park. While I have the dash apart for an ls swap, I'd like to add intermittent wipers. I just need to verify the information I've gathered from a few hours worth of search.
If i pick up an 80-81 camaro wiper motor and a swtich from either that same car or an 80's chevy truck, it's just a matter of wiring it up correct?

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 19, 9:05 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

I found the answer on ElCaminocental. For anyone in the future, an 80-81 camaro wiper motor with the camaro switch(hard to find) or ds-414 wiper switch used on warly 80s gm trucks

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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 6th, 19, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

2 questions
Red circle: I think the delay switch will be wired in between these 2 red wires?
Blue circle: original El Camino pump has 2 wires the camaro pump has 3, what am I wiring to this third vertical terminal?

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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

I don’t have the time to type everything out, but here’s the basics for now:

You can’t use the truck style switch. This was used in conjunction with a standalone intermittent module.

The wiper motor you pictured is a unit set up for Multiplex wiper system first introduced in 1980 which needs the “hard to find switch”.

The switch has 4 terminals on the back (ground, activation, low/high activation and wash activation). In addition, the switch contains a pigtail wire. This is the Multiplex signal wire that eventually connects underhood to the 3rd terminal under the typical washer pump terminals.

Under the washer pump cover is the control board which also contains the sweep switch and wash override switch contacts. Also under the cover is the motor control relay (that’s what those mysterious wires are just flopping outside of your motor.

You have to match your equipment carefully, you can’t mix and match.

GM introduced “pulse wipers” (intermittent) in 1973. Then the modified pulse was introduced 2 years later, then came the Multiplex system (which is the best of the vintage intermittent systems).

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post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 10th, 19, 2:38 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

Thank you for that information it gives a little more clarity. I'm going to send the truck switch back. I found the module you're talking about and it's not cheap. i think I have an incorrect washer pump because there is no way to connect the wires to the pulse circuit. So my plan for now is send the truck switch back and find the correct washer pump and keep my eyes out on ebay for the camaro switch. Hopefully I'm on track?

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Plan b is send the motor back too and get an El camino motor and one of those delay switches off eBay.

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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 13th, 19, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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I'm getting my butt kicked on this. I picked up a different washer pump because the one I originally bought. did not include the pulse relay inside. I should be good to go there. I jumped the gun on a 79 Camaro switch off ebay but the 79 specifically only works with a 79 motor which isn't available anymore. The 79 switch has a 3 wire pigtail and is not compatible with the 80-81 single wire system. Hopefully they can cancel my order. I also grabbed a 78-83 c10 switch and module off ebay because it was cheap. With this module, the squarebody guys can use their original 2 speed motor and just plug in the switch and module to their original harness to gain pulse wipers. I'm wondering if this would be possible to do this with a little wiring. Im going to keep the Camaro motor so I can retain some options and run it as 2 speed worst case. GM really couldn't get the delay wiper thing figured out in the late 70s early 80s eh?
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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

Sorry Neil this doesn't help you but it's good info for others following along.

This company offers intermittent wiper controllers for cars without parking wipers (and a few other neat items):
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After 4 hours of research last night I have the best solution I could come up with. I'm sending the Camaro motor back and selling the truck module/switch. I had found this on eBay and I think it's the way to go. It works with park wipers and wires into the low speed circuit in order to retain my El Camino switch.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F221547758554

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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

I'm going to save this as a Saved Item in my EBay profile and I will be interested to see how this works for you.

Where are you going to mount the control box?

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After 4 hours of research last night I have the best solution I could come up with. I'm sending the Camaro motor back and selling the truck module/switch. I had found this on eBay and I think it's the way to go. It works with park wipers and wires into the low speed circuit in order to retain my El Camino switch.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F221547758554

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I want to wake this thread up. The auction link has (obviously) expired but all of the new switch auctions expressly stated "will NOT work with depressed park wipers." so, did you get this one? Does it work?

I am interested because I really want a modern upgrade for my 68. It seems others do to, but no one has found the right combo of parts that are readily available. Anyone considered going completely off the wall and attaching servo motors to each wiper? Brainstorming here.

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post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 14th, 19, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Camaro wiper motor w/park

I would message the seller on eBay. He hooked me up with a box that works great. If I remember correctly he told me he only put that disclaimer on there because people kept hooking The box up incorrectly.

The blades do park in-between wipes when you're on delay. You have to turn the original wiper switch on, then turn on the wiper delay box, then you can turn the original wiper switch off and it will function on delay.

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OK, this is going to sound really whiny, but that seems overly complicated to get the wiper delay. Where did you mount the delay box? I assumed it would replace the wiper switch. I will message the guy on ebay and see what I get.

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post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 18th, 19, 6:16 PM Thread Starter
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OK, this is going to sound really whiny, but that seems overly complicated to get the wiper delay. Where did you mount the delay box? I assumed it would replace the wiper switch. I will message the guy on ebay and see what I get.
It's not too complicated to wire up really. It's definitely nice to have if you drive often and in rain. I have a sweeper dash that had been cut for a DIN size cd player at one point so I made an ABS filler panel and mounted it in there since I made a center console with double DIN touch screen head unit. I'll remember to take pics later tonight

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