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post #31 of 56 (permalink) Old Jul 11th, 18, 8:32 AM
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From my experience a real HEI will barely fire up with only 12v

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Why does this Geoff guy have such a Hard On for Dave? I think Geoff has to grow up or find a new sand box to play in. This is getting a little old now.
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Something I just remembered that I thought Iíd pass along. For the past 4 years Iíve been running my HEI powered off a relay getting full voltage from my horn relay. I run a wire from the ignition fuse on the fuse box to turn the relay on. That HEI was in my car when I bought it back in 2010. I can only assume it was a used GM unit from some other car. I sold it with my 396 when I pulled that out.

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Who the eff cares Geoff, PLEASE.........stop the kid fighting ..... with the numerous other sources.,.. do you LIVE to tangle with Dave Ray? You might get that checked out. The OP dont give a eff Geoff.

Duke, get that thing fixed! I carry spare everything with me anymore.....module, coil, after the MSD took out the coil. Havent put the MSD back in yet.
Yes, Gene, I WANT to get the damn thing fixed and I will! I can't believe that millions of these things have been installed and run for 1000's of miles trouble-free and I have one in for a few thousand miles and POOF. Who makes the "real" GM ignition...US or China? I'm taking the distrib. to my guy this PM and as I said, will report back the findings and hopefully the "cure(s)". Obviously, I'm not the only one with such problems. Maybe the old points thing isn't so bad. I have also had good luck with Petronix but I know they aren't foolproof.
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Yes, his sole intent is two fold, to debunk every word I say, and copy/paste all sorts of "gospel specs" that are just not applicable.

Question is, does he work in an area of automobile tech, which one, and why does he insist on not posting his own hands-on results, only those of others. He refuses to answer questions asked of him, that speaks volumes of his own experiences, it appears.

He has the right to post what he sees fit, right, or wrong, and he is well versed in attacking me, but, as said above, "WHO CARES?" He is literally one of a very small handful of persons, one on just about every web board I attend, that does the same thing, attack, and then justify with erroneous, outdated, and/or incorrect info, then attack me.

What bothers me the most isn't getting attacked by him, I can, and always will defend myself with the real truth, but, this "hobby" is getting way to extremely expensive, and even one dubious answer can cost someone a lot more funds/time/effort and frustration than people have to fix the problems, THAT AIN'T GOOD, and, that is what I hope to stop, and strive to avoid.

So, leave him alone, let him post his copy and paste, people here already have his efforts, and mine, figured out.
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Yes, Gene, I WANT to get the damn thing fixed and I will! I can't believe that millions of these things have been installed and run for 1000's of miles trouble-free and I have one in for a few thousand miles and POOF. Who makes the "real" GM ignition...US or China? I'm taking the distrib. to my guy this PM and as I said, will report back the findings and hopefully the "cure(s)". Obviously, I'm not the only one with such problems. Maybe the old points thing isn't so bad. I have also had good luck with Petronix but I know they aren't foolproof.
I have yet to see proof of an HEI thatís made here. The MSD Pro billet version I believe to be, but they are a small fortune. Perhaps thatís what itís come to, you have to spend 3-4 times the amount to get something that works? I donít know, but donít feel bad Duke I get my fair share of parts that donít work, and I always go back to where was it made? However I donít think you could build or maintain a car today without buying parts from overseas. Itís sad, but the reality of things.

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427L88,


What I care about is people getting correct information. Maybe you don't......

And no, I don't live to tangle with DR. He provides info that is sometimes incorrect, & can easily be verified as being such. He also makes lots of statements that I agree with 100%.
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Geoff , please dont EVER assume you know what or how I think bud. And, it was CLEAR you pounced on Dave. At least likely. Cant bullcrap an old interrogator sir. We've seen it all.


Duke, I hear ya. I'm the guy whose Accel (or Force EFI now) module crapped out on initial fire up, right after the MSD crapped out! ( and took a coil with it) Bought the MSD in '02 , so cant complain there, but it does very much want me to adhere to the old Special Forces rule of KISS. I still havent wired the MSD up, or put my Dave Ray special back in, leaving the Pertronix LS module in a rebuilt oem distributor , with a spare in my travel kit. The DR distributor is a much better piece, ( and refreshed by Dave last year), but the thought of running an MSD again, dont make me feel warm and fuzzy. a dual point distributor would!

Plus, I know the Pertronix LS is stable to around 8000 rpms. By accident, mind you. Sure sounded sweet way up there! ( and no rev limiter obviously)
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To Dave's point, my "American" racing TT were around $900 for the set. If they were real ALCOA castings and Arconic machining, what do you think they would have cost? My guess is $2500 for 4. Maybe we need some tariffs on aftermarket auto stuff to level that out? 4 for $850 , or one for $650. Doesnt make it easy to buy US.
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I have yet to see proof of an HEI thatís made here. The MSD Pro billet version I believe to be, but they are a small fortune. .
Performance Distributors ( Davis DUI ) are made in the USA. Right in good old Tennessee I believe.
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Performance Distributors ( Davis DUI ) are made in the USA. Right in good old Tennessee I believe.
Yes, that is another one. I mentioned that brand to my engine builder and he didnít like them, I guess he had some issues. So that left me little choice. Of course though if you ask people about a particular brand, you usual get the range from ďjunkĒ, to ďmine works fine.Ē

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Dave that's funny I just had a new engine built. Picking it up in a couple days. I was asking my builder about reusing some of the.accessories from my current big block. He ask me what kind of a distributor I had and I replied a Davis DUI. He remarked " yes, that's a good one. Reuse it." On some of the other stuff he told me no don't use it again.
Guess one can't please all the people all of the time.
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may i ask what is a davis dui?
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may i ask what is a davis dui?
It is an HEI distributor manufactured by a company called Performance Distributors

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is this a american made item? does it have epoxy or oiled coils?
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