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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 19, 5:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Driver Side Bucket Seat Problem

Ok Guys. Bear with me here. --- The drivers bucket seat-back in my '70 SS won't sit upright properly. Both buckets were leaning too far back, so I replaced the seat bumpers. The passenger seat is perfectly upright, drivers is still laying too far back. The best way I can describe it is this: You know when you pull the seat back up for someone to get in the back seat, then you put it back into position and you hear that little click which means it is locked in? Well. after the click, there is a tremendous amount of slack or play in the driver's seat-back. The passenger seat settles back in place perfectly after the click. It's as if who EVER drove the car before pushed against the seat-back so hard and maybe something like a hinge is sprung or the frame is bent. Any ideas or suggestions? I can drive it like it is, but it feels like I'm laying down and I'm miserable. Thanks in advance!
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Does it have the rubber stops on bottom seat frame for that the upper seat rests against?


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Check to see if all the bolts are installed that mount the upper seat frames to the bottom frames. You must remove the lower seat skirt panels to see this. The bolts will be hid behind where the seat covers are hog ringed to the brackets that mount using the seat hinge mounting bolts.
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You might have frame metal fatigue, is it flexing when you push back on the backrest?

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Re: Driver Side Bucket Seat Problem

Yes. I put new seat bumpers on because I thought it would fix the problem. It did help with the passenger seat, but the driver's seat still has the problem.
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Cal, it isn't a flex problem. The seat-back has play or slop in it. After the click where the seat-back has locked in, the seat-back still has about 3-4 inches of play before it stops into the upright position.
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Check to see if all the bolts are installed that mount the upper seat frames to the bottom frames. You must remove the lower seat skirt panels to see this. The bolts will be hid behind where the seat covers are hog ringed to the brackets that mount using the seat hinge mounting bolts.
Next thing to check is this^^^^^

It might be easier to remove the whole seat from the car. 4 bolts hold it to the floor. Then you can remove both bottom plastic skirts, 3 chrome screws on each skirt, and check those hinge bolts. 2 on each side. With that much play in the seat back, those bolts could be loose, or possibly a couple of them fell out. I've seen that happen.

Let us know what you find.
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All the above.
As mentioned to id the real problem you need to strip that cushion. Either a little to view the hinge bolts or a lot to view the upper frame.

If you don't want to do that right away, just pull both seats and swap tracks to make the passenger seat the driver seat.

That way the comfy seat is the one you will be sitting in... Also when you are ready to work on it/strip that cushion- the car will still be driveable since it'd be the passenger seat.

Obviously that's a band aid, but if upholstery isn't your thing it may be ok until you are ready to try or ready to take it to someone.
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Re: Driver Side Bucket Seat Problem

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You might have frame metal fatigue, is it flexing when you push back on the backrest?
Unfortunately, I think that you'll eventually have to remove the seat, have it de-upholstered and have the metal frame fixed (or reinforced) then re-upholster it back. Putting some additional bumpers is a "fix" but not the real solution…

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Check to see if all the bolts are installed that mount the upper seat frames to the bottom frames. You must remove the lower seat skirt panels to see this. The bolts will be hid behind where the seat covers are hog ringed to the brackets that mount using the seat hinge mounting bolts.
This has to be it. Bending the seat frames would take a forklift pushing on it, not a person.

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This has to be it. Bending the seat frames would take a forklift pushing on it, not a person.

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If the car was rear ended at some point, the thick "ear" that rests on the seat back stop could be slightly bent upwards. Look at that ear. Is it level ? or bent up a little bit. If it is just bent a little, it could move the seat back a few inches. If this is the problem, then cut out a 1/8" or 1/4" piece of steel or aluminum and put it under the new rubber seat back stops. make them the exact same size with a hole in the middle and nobody will notice a difference. Be careful you do not make them too tall and effect the locking mechanism of the seat.

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Re: Driver Side Bucket Seat Problem

There is also the possibility that a previous owner did that to the seat on purpose.Its common to see cars set up with the drivers seat (& usually both seats) laid back like that.That is a popular way to drive for the younger hippity hop generation.
Rambo's post #8 is the quickest fix as both seats are the same.So with the brackets changed it gives you time to work on what will fix this plus it gives you a good seat to compare the broken seat with.One that hasn't been broken or modified.

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If the car was rear ended at some point, the thick "ear" that rests on the seat back stop could be slightly bent upwards. Look at that ear. Is it level ? or bent up a little bit. If it is just bent a little, it could move the seat back a few inches. If this is the problem, then cut out a 1/8" or 1/4" piece of steel or aluminum and put it under the new rubber seat back stops. make them the exact same size with a hole in the middle and nobody will notice a difference. Be careful you do not make them too tall and effect the locking mechanism of the seat.
I too have seen where the ear had to bent back into position. It is very hard to bend. The steel is pretty thick. I think I had to use an 18 inch Crescent wrench on it to bend it. It very well could be what is wrong here. That would be the first place that I would look. Just fold the seat forward and look at the ears on the seat back that rests against the rubber stops you just replaced on that seat. Then compare them to the passenger seat. Fold the seat forward take some pictures and post them here. Then we may be able to see what is going on.


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What did you find out here, Tricia? Any pics to post?
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old Sep 4th, 19, 4:51 PM
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Her last activity on this site was Aug. 26th. They must have figured it out and forgot about all of us who are in suspense. It goes like this a lot, where you never find out the solution to their problem.
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