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post #16 of 25 (permalink) Old Jun 18th, 19, 9:14 PM
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Search for the dimensions and maybe some screen shots of Chevelle/Lemans and Corvair, etc... To make sure the one's you buy are correct for a Chevelle (so Chevelle repro covers will fit...)
Good idea. There are some Corvair seats that are very close to the dimensions of 65 A body seats and some that are not. I had a set of Corvair seats once that the only difference I could find was the tracks were about 3/4 inch shorter. Other than that they were the same. Two things I recall. If the Corvair seats have 4 front support springs they are probably same dimension. If they have 5 front springs they are not. Also when the seat folds forward if it folds towards the middle of the car it is not the same if the seat folds straight forward it could be the same.
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post #17 of 25 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 19, 4:40 PM Thread Starter
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I picked up a set of bucket seats this past weekend. They are from a 65 GTO. Not the greatest shape but I think they will be usable. I have taken one apart, and for sure the frames are usable. The back springs will need to be replaced in the one I took apart and I'm still trying to decide on the bottom springs.

The one concern I had was the tracks. They have a pretty good coating of rust, but nothing completely rusted out. I got them apart and will work on restoring them.

I'm going to need help form any forum members who have done this, so my question is should I start a new thread titled 65 bucket seat restoration? And where should I post the thread, under Interior, Project, or Restoration area?

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I picked up a set of bucket seats this past weekend. They are from a 65 GTO. Not the greatest shape but I think they will be usable. I have taken one apart, and for sure the frames are usable. The back springs will need to be replaced in the one I took apart and I'm still trying to decide on the bottom springs.

The one concern I had was the tracks. They have a pretty good coating of rust, but nothing completely rusted out. I got them apart and will work on restoring them.

I'm going to need help form any forum members who have done this, so my question is should I start a new thread titled 65 bucket seat restoration? And where should I post the thread, under Interior, Project, or Restoration area?

Thanks,

Don H.
Go buy 2-3 gallons of white vinegar at your local grocery store, dump it in a rubbermaid bin and toss in the tracks (remove the springs first).

Let them soak for a 3-4 days, then scrub them with a brush and take them out and wash them off with soap and water, then hit them with WD40 to get rid of the water to eliminate flash rust.

The acid in the vinegar will eat the rust right off them, they'll look good as new. You do have to SCRUB them though.

I would hit the little whistle icon at the top of this thread (report this post) and ask an admin to rename this thread and just continue the conversation here.
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Molasses diluted about 7:1 is pure magic, I think the process is called celation. I just did a couple wicked ugly early pipe wrenches that had a bit too much 'patina', and they came out bright as a shiny new penny.
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post #20 of 25 (permalink) Old Jul 29th, 19, 12:32 AM
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Re: Bench to bucket conversion

One thing I noticed after losing the bench seat in my wagon, I picked up a little head room.
Buckets don't have to clear the trans tunnel. I had to fight to get in my friends Elco after
we installed his newly over-upholstered bench.
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Molasses diluted about 7:1 is pure magic, I think the process is called celation. I just did a couple wicked ugly early pipe wrenches that had a bit too much 'patina', and they came out bright as a shiny new penny.
I just looked that up, it is spelled "Chelation" in case anyone wants to research it. I have not heard of it before.

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post #22 of 25 (permalink) Old Oct 28th, 19, 7:54 AM Thread Starter
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For any one interested here's some updating.

I have one seat frame/spring assembly restored (pictures attached). Thanks to Ben Ramo, I used his vinegar technique to remove rust from the frames/springs. What I found is that the vinegar works great. I left the parts in the vinegar for about a week, took them out and power washed and they end looking like all new metal; however, they flash rust faster than I can get them complete dried off. I used Eastwood rustu encapsulator paint on the frames.

One thing that I didn't know and Ben noticed was that these are 65 GTO seats, and the bottom springs are different for the 65 Chevelle. Since the back springs on one seat had excess rust and loss of spring diameter and broken springs, and the bottom springs were incorrect, I decided to order all new springs. I went with the best pricing I could find (mistake) and ordered from Muscle Factory. I only ordered one back spring first to see how well they would fit/work. It matched the original pretty well and went onto the frame very easily. So I decided to order another back and two bottoms.

Well, the bottoms are not even close to fit or correct. No curve in the bolster area, they are just simply flat. I asked to return them and Muscle Factory said fine, however, when I went to FedEx the shipping charge was almost as much as I paid for the frame. Muscle Factory shipped them to me for $32, It would cost me $109 to ship them back. So I'll just keep them for yard art or something!!!

I did more research and ended up buying two more bottom springs, this time from NPD. Look much better, fit the frames very good.

Thanks again Ben
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I had my buckets redone, the drivers side needed new springs. I wish I would of went for the bench but My car came with buckets its a SS396... Now that I changed the shifter to a Hurst Autostick, I might do the bench seat...


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One thing that I didn't know and Ben noticed was that these are 65 GTO seats, and the bottom springs are different for the 65 Chevelle
Yes, those are different in that Chevelle bottom seat springs are rounded at the front edge, and GTO are more square. I have pointed this out to several vendors that sell the springs as "the same", and they don't seem to know or care.

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I'm not opposed to a reproduction seat, but I would like it to be as close to original as possible. Are there any that are very similar to original? I've searched but not found anything that I think is close to original.

From what you guys say, $800 for the ebay set that needs complete restoration may be a little high. I think I will pass on them and keep looking.

I will do much or all of the restoration myself. Just depends on whether I can find good set of instruction on doing the covers.

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Don, I usually go to the car show/swap meet in Moultrie Georgia every year the week before Thanksgiving, then there's the Turkey Rod Run in Daytona the following week. Both are good places to score a set of buckets for your EC.

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