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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 19, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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BBC engine advice ?

I'm looking for NEW engine options for a street build. I started a post under projects/builds with lots more info about what I'm looking to do but so far no replies...anyway below is brief info for 67 Chevelle build:
1.) BBC (496 up through 632) all motor
2.) Fuel - Open to 87-93 & E-85 / Flex fuel - No race gas.
3.) Carb or EFI ?
=> Does anyone on this forum build engines or anyone have any recommended engine builders within a 5 hour drive of Cleveland, OH ?
=> Anyone have any known engine combos that work for street ?
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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 19, 12:45 PM
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Give Mark Jones a call. He is Vortecpro on this website. He;s in Colorado and ships to you.

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Oliver69 from Italy, is one of many fellow TCr who, has had Mark Jones build 2 great Engines for him

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https://vortecpro454.com/

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1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
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I'll vouch for Mark, he built the engine in my truck and will build more for me in the future. I'll vouch for Mike Lewis too, he's sold me a lot of machined parts and all are top notch. Scott Foxwell and I have had our disagreements but I think he's also an excellent builder.

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You need to tell us a budget and the intended use of the car.
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post #6 of 38 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 19, 4:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi Guys - Thanks for all the replies so far, greatly appreciated !

Budget / Use of car is below for your further consideration:
* 1967 Chevelle hard top that I want to make into a conservative RESTO MOD - Iím not concerned w/ original parts as this will be a DRIVER, not a show car or museum piece. I donít want any crazy mods either, just more modern and driver friendly features
* Order of preference: Reliability, Performance & Price
* My budget is NOT unlimited but Iím not going to sacrifice $ for the other 2. I want to do it RIGHT the first time and not want to think about FUTURE power gains, performance add-ons, etc.
* 98% Street / 2% Strip - Want HIGHLY reliable but NOT a daily driver, this will be a FUN car only but want it to start/drive when I want to take it out or on a road trip (2-3 hr max from my home & back is most it will ever see). Will NOT be driven in winter/rain conditions.
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post #7 of 38 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 19, 4:45 PM
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Re: BBC engine advice ?

You don't even need to think about 632, unless you wanna have something to brag about. Have vortecpro (or other engine builder) build a 468 or 496, that's all you need for street. Either one when properly built will put out more power than tires can handle.
I've had cars with 700+ HP before, and now that I'm restoring my Chevelle I decided (realized) that all I really need to have fun on the street is a reliable 500hp 468 and an Auto gear Muncie.
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Big difference between a 496 and a 632

if you want to have some eye opening fun on the street,a 650 HP pump gas,hyd. roller 496 will get you there. And it can be done without a radical cam too.


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Personally I would put a 383 small block in it. More than enough power and a lot less weight up front if you want it to handle nice.

That being said . . . . as far as a big block goes a nice 10 to 1 454 with a hydraulic roller cam will have more power than most people would know what to do with. Easy 500 horsepower on pump gas and very reliable. I would probably go with fuel injection though I am not sure which one. It would have to be multi port with ignition control if I was doing it.

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if you want to have some eye opening fun on the street,a 650 HP pump gas,hyd. roller 496 will get you there. And it can be done without a radical cam too.
This.

There's nothing exotic about my 496. It's in a truck that tows and I wouldn't hesitate to hook up a fifth wheel and head across the country. My mother in law could drive it. But it's 630 HP and is silly fun to drive and would be borderline mental in a Chevelle on the street.
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"build a 468 or 496, that's all you need for street. Either one when properly built will put out more power than tires can handle.
I've had cars with 700+ HP before, and now that I'm restoring my Chevelle I decided (realized) that all I really need to have fun on the street is a reliable 500hp 468 and an Auto gear Muncie."

This is where I'm having a difficult time deciding what to do...What is "enough", "practical" and "driveable" for the street...
=> What's the driveability of a BBC 468/500 HP vs 540/700 HP vs 582/800 HP w/ good tires assuming it has been built for the STREET w/ proper cams, heads, carb, idle, etc ? Ex: I'm NOT talking about trying to drive a DRAG car on the street.

Thanks for the inputs !
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Re: BBC engine advice ?

I like a big big block, there's no replacement for displacement.

But 632 is pretty outrageous for a 98% driven street car.

540, 572 or even a 598 should more than satisfy. From there, it's all about the heads, cam, lifters & intake.

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"build a 468 or 496, that's all you need for street. Either one when properly built will put out more power than tires can handle.
I've had cars with 700+ HP before, and now that I'm restoring my Chevelle I decided (realized) that all I really need to have fun on the street is a reliable 500hp 468 and an Auto gear Muncie."

This is where I'm having a difficult time deciding what to do...What is "enough", "practical" and "driveable" for the street...
=> What's the driveability of a BBC 468/500 HP vs 540/700 HP vs 582/800 HP w/ good tires assuming it has been built for the STREET w/ proper cams, heads, carb, idle, etc ? Ex: I'm NOT talking about trying to drive a DRAG car on the street.

Thanks for the inputs !
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468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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I would suggest Tom Hutchins....whoever that is...anydody wanna chime in on that one?LOL.
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no idea, whozzat?

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