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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Jul 23rd, 19, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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350 Power Steering Belt/Pump Please Help!

Good morning. I have a 1971 Chevelle with a "rebuilt" 350 Vortec Engine from an 87 S10 truck... The power steering belt literally sits atop the power steering pump causing friction. Needless to say two belts have popped. When they rebuilt the motor is it possible that they put the power steering pump in the wrong place or perhaps the engine bay is narrower than the S10 so they moved it closer? How can I remedy this problem. I am open to all solutions.
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Good morning. I have a 1971 Chevelle with a "rebuilt" 350 Vortec Engine from an 87 S10 truck... The power steering belt literally sits atop the power steering pump causing friction. Needless to say two belts have popped. When they rebuilt the motor is it possible that they put the power steering pump in the wrong place or perhaps the engine bay is narrower than the S10 so they moved it closer? How can I remedy this problem. I am open to all solutions.
If you have enough adjustment, maybe a longer belt will help move some of the accessories out of the way ?
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Forum rules; Pics or it didn't happen.

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Got pictures?
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Dutch Max Headwork, Dozerhand. Below are the pics. Please forgive me as I'm a novice to this. It's actually the power steering belt rubbing up against the gear box, not the power steering box. The belt rubs up against the gear box bolts.
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Re: 350 Power Steering Belt/Pump Please Help!

Now you have me scratching my head. It looks like the belt is running upside down in the grooves. Is this how you are running your belt? If you flip it over so it runs in the grooves correctly then adjust the power steering will it still hit the box? If so adjust your belt length to a size or two larger or smaller according to need. Take you belt to the to parts store and have them find a size that will work. I'm going to suggest Napa as their parts men are not as retarded as those from other parts outlets.

It also looks like you are missing the top bracket and adjustment bolt on the pump. You might have to figure out a way to get support there so you can maintain belt tension.

Pop a picture farther out so we can see the front of the engine and how/where the steer pump is mounted.
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Belt is on upside down.

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In the second pic, the bracket looks like it's about an inch or more past the bolt that should hold it down. Either it's the wrong bracket or it's not mounted to the front of the engine correctly. You need to find someone who has a similar combination and have a look. I can show you pics of mine but it's a big block.
EDIT: Yup, I'm betting it's the wrong pump bracket. Picture below is of a '72 power steering pump.


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p.s. notice how I shamelessly bragged about having a big block
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Now you have me scratching my head. It looks like the belt is running upside down in the grooves. Is this how you are running your belt? If you flip it over so it runs in the grooves correctly then adjust the power steering will it still hit the box? If so adjust your belt length to a size or two larger or smaller according to need. Take you belt to the to parts store and have them find a size that will work. I'm going to suggest Napa as their parts men are not as retarded as those from other parts outlets.

It also looks like you are missing the top bracket and adjustment bolt on the pump. You might have to figure out a way to get support there so you can maintain belt tension.

Pop a picture farther out so we can see the front of the engine and how/where the steer pump is mounted.

I was just holding the belt on the pully to show how close/how it rubs on the gear box. The belt is always correctly placed on the pully but after the constant friction it pops. Sorry for the delayed response. The site kicked me out and wouldn't let me back in.
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Belt is on upside down.

I was just holding the belt on the pully to show how close/how it rubs on the gear box. The belt is always correctly placed on the pully but after the constant friction it pops.
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In the second pic, the bracket looks like it's about an inch or more past the bolt that should hold it down. Either it's the wrong bracket or it's not mounted to the front of the engine correctly. You need to find someone who has a similar combination and have a look. I can show you pics of mine but it's a big block.
EDIT: Yup, I'm betting it's the wrong pump bracket. Picture below is of a '72 power steering pump.


later, dozer

p.s. notice how I shamelessly bragged about having a big block

I swung by a mechanic today and he immediately knew what I was talking about and had seen it before. He said he would check to see if he has a bracket in the shop or that he would have to make one. Nice way to plug in about that BIG BLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Who installed the engine? Seems it should be their responsibility to make it right. If you put it in certainly you have the ability to chase down and install the correct bracket.


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OK so the brackets leave the belt and pulley too close to the P/S box.There is a simple fix that works.Get your floor jack and a wood block that you trust.Jack the left side motor mount up and remove the MM bolts temporarily, now get a couple of 1/8" thick washers and put them under the motor mount then re-install the MM. This will lift the L/S of the engine that same amount so now check how much clearance you gained as you may have to double the washers to move the pulley away a little more.
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Who installed the engine? Seems it should be their responsibility to make it right. If you put it in certainly you have the ability to chase down and install the correct bracket.


later, dozer

Dozer, the engine was truthfully a back yard rebuild (nothing wrong with that if the mechanic knows what he is doing) and has had two owners prior to me purchasing the car. Unfortunately when you buy someone else's car, you buy their headache with any shoddy repairs that comes with it. I do agree that he should have know or seen that the bracket was incorrect.
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OK so the brackets leave the belt and pulley too close to the P/S box.There is a simple fix that works.Get your floor jack and a wood block that you trust.Jack the left side motor mount up and remove the MM bolts temporarily, now get a couple of 1/8" thick washers and put them under the motor mount then re-install the MM. This will lift the L/S of the engine that same amount so now check how much clearance you gained as you may have to double the washers to move the pulley away a little more.

71350SS: Thanks for your help!!!!!! I've heard that this is a fairly common problem and that by lifting the MM it will correct the problem. I've spoken with the mechanic and will keep you posted on the outcome.
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