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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 20, 4:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

Hello, I’m converting my ‘70 Chevelle from track only (9.78 @ 137mph best) and will be replacing the rear end (with spool)and trans (clutchless G-Force) to allow for street use with an occasional trip to the drag strip. I will also need to buy new wheels (front and rear since I have skinnies on the front and the style is no longer available) and wanted to ask for recommendations on wheels which can accommodate 5/8” drive studs on the axles. So far I’ve seen this available from Centerline and Weld, but would like to know if there are add’l options in a 15” x 10” wide and approx 5.25” backspace configuration. Any suggestions will be appreciated. My car has been sitting for too long and I’m looking forward to driving it on the street.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 20, 7:01 PM
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

Most wheel designs can be drilled to allow the larger drive studs, I've drilled a couple sets of vintage aluminum slots to run this way.
You just have to make sure there is enough meat around the lug hole for it....some of the real spidery looking lightweight modern stuff is not thick enough IMO.

Decent size drill press or a Bridgeport type mill makes this real easy, but you can do it by hand drill motor if you are careful, I know of guys who have done it.
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

What Size of a Tire are you looking at to put on those 15"x 10" with a 5.25" BS ?

On a 70 Chevelle if you have the Stock Width Rearend you will need more
BackSpace to the Wheel to fit Large Tires in the Wheel Wells

67 Chevelle Malibu SS Cdn
Born 283 / PG / A51
468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 20, 6:33 PM
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

This TC 1/2 Hour limit sucks
I just spent Time to provide the OP with some info and it all went away as soon as I fit SAVE

67 Chevelle Malibu SS Cdn
Born 283 / PG / A51
468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 20, 6:43 PM
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

Try again

I have these Wheels on my car and the Holes are large enough for 1/2" Rearend Studs with Room to Spare
https://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/JEGS-Spo...31935/10002/-1
So the Holes are Larger than 1/2" and the Center of the Wheel is Thick
Use these Lug Nuts to fill the Gap
https://www.jegs.com/p/Billet-Specia...57188/10002/-1



Wheels - JEGs Sport Stars#66062 Alum 15"x7" BS= 4" & Billet Specialties ET Lug Nuts #999980
Tires - Cooper Star Fire SF 340 P205/70R/15"



Wheels = JEGs Sport Stars # 66086 15" x 10" BS= 5.5" & Billet Specialties ET Lug Nuts #999984
Tires = M/T ET Street S/S # 3454 295/55/15

67 Chevelle Malibu SS Cdn
Born 283 / PG / A51
468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 27th, 20, 12:48 PM
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

I guess the other issue that might come up is if you use acorn or the washer type how big does the nut get and will you have issues there. I know on the 5/8 stuff the acorn can get pretty big and need like a 1 inch or bigger socket. The wheels that use a shaft and washer should be fine nothing in the way and I would only get the wheels from manufacturer that have the larger holes done. I see based on your time and mph you got some power there so I see the 5/8 side of things. Given your unusual offset do think going with just 1/2 inch studs would give you more flexibility in wheel choices and offsets and I think the 1/2 inch stuff from ARP can be pretty strong?
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old Jul 9th, 20, 2:26 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the great suggestions. My proposed configuration is based on my current 10” and 5.25” b.s. setup which has the wheel centered and allowed me to run a Firestone 29.5” x 10.5” slick (and it’s 13.5” section width) with the stock 12-bolt drum-to-drum width of 61.165.” My current plan is to run the MT ET Street 295/65-15 and I’d appreciate if anyone running these could share the actual section width of this tire (I’m not sure how much it varies from the given 295 designation).
I’m prepared to drill wheels as long as there is plenty of material, but was looking to see what add’l options existed with sufficiently sized holes and socket clearance. I know there are lots of Chevelles out there running quick ET’s and am interested to hear what combo they’re running. I’m happy to share what I’ve learned as well.
I was also hoping for a suggestion for the correct backspacing for use of a 7” or 8” front wheel since I’m switching from skinnies.
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

You have wheels on it now I assume, why can't you use them on the street? Are they beadlocks? And, you're going to pull the spool out? I've been running a spool in mine for 20+ years. My car has gone 9.50's and has enough power to go quicker but I haven't been able to go to the track with Covid 19 going on. I drive my car all over. It has Centerlines with 5/8" studs.
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

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Thanks for the great suggestions. My proposed configuration is based on my current 10” and 5.25” b.s. setup which has the wheel centered and allowed me to run a Firestone 29.5” x 10.5” slick (and it’s 13.5” section width) with the stock 12-bolt drum-to-drum width of 61.165.” My current plan is to run the MT ET Street 295/65-15 and I’d appreciate if anyone running these could share the actual section width of this tire (I’m not sure how much it varies from the given 295 designation).
I’m prepared to drill wheels as long as there is plenty of material, but was looking to see what add’l options existed with sufficiently sized holes and socket clearance. I know there are lots of Chevelles out there running quick ET’s and am interested to hear what combo they’re running. I’m happy to share what I’ve learned as well.
I was also hoping for a suggestion for the correct backspacing for use of a 7” or 8” front wheel since I’m switching from skinnies.

See my Post # 5
Front Wheels = 15"x 7" BS = 4" but could go Wider maybe .25"

Rear Wheels = 15"x 10" with a BS of 5.5" Therefore yours should have more BS based on the Wider Rearend / I have Drum on mine
Rear Tires = 295/55/15 M/T ET Street S/S = 27.8" Dia / 12.2+" Section Width per JEGs on a 9.5" Wide Wheel

My car's Rearend is 60" Wide 67 & prior and yours is 61" Wide 68 and after
which = 1" difference divided by 2 = 1/2" Wider per Side

The 295/65/15 M/T ET Street S/S = 30.1" Dia / 11.8+" Section Width per JEGs on a 8.5" Wide Wheel
so on a 10" Wide Wheel it would be about/at lest 12.5" Wide IMO

Every car is different from Dr side to Passsenger side in the Rear
and takingmeasurements of your car's Wheel Fender Wells etc is the key
to what Wheel /Tire Combo size will fit without rubbing or hitting anything

With theRear Wheels/Tires removed from Both DR & Pass sides,
one side at a time or allsame time measure the following;

1.OUT SPACE from inside Lip of outside Fender to Face of RearDrum/Disc Brake Hub/Wheel Mounting Pad
.... DR Side = ??“ .... PASS Side = ??”
2.IN SPACE from Face of Rear Drum Brake Hub/Wheel MountingPad to Frame/Inner Fender
.... DR Side = ??“ .... PASS Side = ??”
3.Total Wheel Well Space = # 1 + # 2 measurements #s
.... DR Side = ??“ .... PASS Side = ??”
if one side is less then use it asthe applicable number or make sure the Rearend is centered properly


Important thingsto NOTE;
1. the RearLower Shock Mount Bolt may interfere with the Wheel’s Rim
2. and yes your car's exhaust may interfer with the Tire on a 10" Wide Wheel
3. Type of Brake system on rearend, Drum or Disc ! as the Disc setup is usuallywider than a Drum setup
4. Is Rearend centred ?
5. Has the carbeen Lowered ?
6. Diameter Height of Tire may interfere with the Body of the Car

Measure twice and you will only need to buy once the Wheels/Tires
you need to fit within your car’s Fenderwells .


Supply theabove info and then I can calculate for you !



67 Chevelle Malibu SS Cdn
Born 283 / PG / A51
468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

Steve - First, nice '69 Camaro! I've had lots of people tell me to run my spool and pro gear on the street and I think I just want to try something different. I'm changing my current Monocoque wheels because I've been running skinnies on the front and Monocoques are not made anymore. I am still considering keeping them and have looked to see if I can find two 7 or 8" wheels to match the rears, even though it's a race wheel and there is a risk of hitting a pot hole and damaging a wheel that is no longer produced.

Kirk - thanks for the comprehensive summary and info, I'm betting a number of people (even non-Chevelle owners) found it helpful and the pics of your '67 show you got it right and I'm going to take a look at your wheels. My new housing will have the stock 61" width (measured between the wheel mounting surfaces) so unchanged from my current setup which has the wheels positioned with only about 3/8" clearance at the frame rail and the widest part of the tire sticking out past the fender lip and the top of the tire tucked inside the wheelwell. Thanks for the ~12.5" estimate for mounting the 295/65-15 MT tire on a 10" wheel - I looked at the Summit site and hadn't seen the Jegs info. I will be considering all the things to consider that you mention in your post and won't purchase wheels until I get the car sitting like I want it. Then I'll be able to use my current wheels and tires to confirm my measurements will provide sufficient clearance. As long as I take into account any differences in wheel geometry (backspace, etc) going from a 13.5" to 12.5" section width tire should give me add'l margin.
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Re: Street/Strip Wheel Options available for use with 5/8” drive studs

You might already know this, but the biggest back spacing you're going to be able to use for the rear wheel on a 70-72 Chevelle is going to be 5.5" which is what I have on my 70 Chevelle. I have the Weld Racing Pro Star wheels with 5/8" studs and they fit like a glove over them. I have P315/60/16 M/T drag radials and they just barely fit into the wheel wells, and I had to cut the fender lips completely off with an air powered cut-off wheel tool and use body sealer to close the gap. I have 15x10 on the rear.

https://www.weldwheels.com/street-st...?pn=96-510280# the e;d Racing Pro Star wheels have a double wall center, and therefore require longer wheel studs than most other wheels need.....

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You might already know this, but the biggest back spacing you're going to be able to use for the rear wheel on a 70-72 Chevelle is going to be 5.5"
That think this only holds true for 16" and below wheels. I have 20x10 w/ 5.74" BS (American Racing VN515) and they clear fine on the back of my 70 w/stock rear width. Currently have 275/35/20 mounted with exactly 3/4" on each side of the top tire shoulder to fender wells. Its also lowered 3" in the rear. Next month I'm going with the same wheel but in 18x10 with the same backspacing and mounting 295/40/18.

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You might already know this, but the biggest back spacing you're going to be able to use for the rear wheel on a 70-72 Chevelle is going to be 5.5" which is what I have on my 70 Chevelle. I have the Weld Racing Pro Star wheels with 5/8" studs and they fit like a glove over them. I have P315/60/16 M/T drag radials and they just barely fit into the wheel wells, and I had to cut the fender lips completely off with an air powered cut-off wheel tool and use body sealer to close the gap. I have 15x10 on the rear.

https://www.weldwheels.com/street-st...?pn=96-510280# the e;d Racing Pro Star wheels have a double wall center, and therefore require longer wheel studs than most other wheels need.....
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That think this only holds true for 16" and below wheels. I have 20x10 w/ 5.74" BS (American Racing VN515) and they clear fine on the back of my 70 w/stock rear width. Currently have 275/35/20 mounted with exactly 3/4" on each side of the top tire shoulder to fender wells. Its also lowered 3" in the rear. Next month I'm going with the same wheel but in 18x10 with the same backspacing and mounting 295/40/18. Mike

I have heard/read of some TC Members with 70 & Up Chevelles on here
that have 15"x 10" Wheels with more than 5.5" BackSpace
and they may have or not had any problems with the Lower Shock Mount
and if they did I think some just Drilled a Higher Hole upwards on the Rearend Bracket
about a 1"+ and then attached the Shock there

67 Chevelle Malibu SS Cdn
Born 283 / PG / A51
468/TH400 2,500 stall/ S60 3.70 Gs
Prev Best on M/T ET S/S #3454 street Tires/Dress 2018/05/20
60' = 1.664
1/8 = 7.532 et / 91 mph
1/4 = 11.814 et / 115 mph
NEW Best with 3,500+ Stall TC 2019/09/08
60' = 1.547
1/8 = 7.311 et / 91.76 mph
1/4 = 11.595 et / 114.28 mph


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