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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old Dec 8th, 19, 12:09 PM Thread Starter
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heavy chevy wheel Q?

hey all, question for everyone? i have a 72 heavy chevy i picked up. it has the 71-72 15in SS style wheels on it. when you look up the heavy chevy options it only lists the 14in rally wheel for the package? could the SS wheel be added as a option ? give me your thoughts please..thanks troy
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Here’s a great resource that can answer lots of questions and give you lots of information for your car. I’m not completely positive, but I think the SS wheels were only available with the SS package?

https://www.chevellestuff.net/1972/index.htm

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Re: heavy chevy wheel Q?

I see 15" tires listed for 72's
https://cdnclassics.chevelles.net/68_72opt.htm#72

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AV3 Three Point Shoulder Harness and Lap Belt

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A51 Front Bucket Seats Astro type

A52 Front Bench Seat

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A90 Electric Trunk Opener

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B84 Body Side Molding

B85 Beltline Reveal Molding

B90 Door Window frame moldings

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C08 Vinyl Roof, full

C50 Rear window defogger

C51 Rear window air deflector

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D34 Vanity visor mirror

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D99 Two Tone Paint Moldings

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F41 Sport Front and Rear Suspension

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LS5 454-270 HP

L22 250-150 HP six cyl

L48 350-175 HP

L65 350-145 HP

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M20 4 spd standard transmission.

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M35 Powerglide automatic, 2 speed.

M38 Turbo 350 automatic transmission

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NK2 Custom Steering Wheel

NK4 Sport Steering Wheel

N33 Tilt steering

N40 Power Steering

N95 Wire Wheel covers

N96 Simulated Magn. Hubcaps

PA3 Deluxe Wheel covers

PK2 G78-14 w/w tires

PL3 E78-14 White Stripe tires

PM6 G78-14 White Stripe tires

PM7 F60-15 White letters, SS models.

PU8 G78-15 White Stripe tires

PX6 F78-14 w/w tires

P01 Wheel Trim Cover

P02 Simulated Wire Wheels, 14"

P06 Wheel Trim Rings

P90 G70-15 White Stripe tires

T58 Rear wheel skirts, wow

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YF5 Calif Assy Line Emission Tested

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Re: heavy chevy wheel Q?

Troy, I believe the 14" rally, special center caps and bright lug nuts were the wheel for the YF3 package. I like the 14" rally but prefer the 15" SS wheel. See the before and after pics.
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Re: heavy chevy wheel Q?

Pretty sure the PU8 G78-15 White Stripe tires weren't for SS cars. Question is, what were they used on?

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Re: heavy chevy wheel Q?

you could be right, it does say PM7 F60-15 White letters, SS models
But doesn't say "SS models" for PU8 G78-15 White Stripe tires.

An easy mistake by whomever made that list.

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ZJ7 Rally Wheels, 14", chrome center cap with bright lugs, no trim ring.
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I know you could about check any box within reason on these cars, Other then drivetrain. Thatís were the cut will be. I have seen so many with the SS wheel on them for sale stating that they were original it makes me wonder. Thatís why I think they could have been added. I am hoping for proof.
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I know you could about check any box within reason on these cars, Other then drivetrain. Thatís were the cut will be. I have seen so many with the SS wheel on them for sale stating that they were original it makes me wonder. Thatís why I think they could have been added. I am hoping for proof.
It's your car, you certainly can do what you prefer. Regarding options on the YF3, they were pretty clear and they were pretty limited. Chevrolet did not want to dilute the very successful marketing campaign of The SS. So limitations were imposed on the YF3 options, no cowl induction, no SS wheels, no 454's, no M22 trannys to name a few. There were other no go's also, no carpet, no bucket seats, the 402 was the biggest cube you could buy in a Heavy. Essentially these were base model Chevelles with a marketing package meant to appeal to the younger generation, pretty heavy man.

To be clear The 71-72 SS wheels were never offered as part of a sales option choice.
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Pretty sure the PU8 G78-15 White Stripe tires weren't for SS cars. Question is, what were they used on?
Whitewalls or white stripes were still a popular option for performance cars back then. My father didn't care for the white lettered tires and had whitewalls on the family GTO into the 1980s.

Original Goodyear radials shown with the cat around 1969.
Michelin X tires second picture in the 70s
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ZJ7 Rally Wheels, 14", chrome center cap with bright lugs, no trim ring.
These wheels, being 14" will fit over "factory style" disc brakes. I just did this conversion and was concerned the 14" Rally wouldn't fit over the kit I bought. They went right on. Well... you can not use stick on wheel weights on the inside of the rim. They will hit. My first Heavy was a factory power disc brake car and it had the 14" rally's also. Just food for thought.

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Re: heavy chevy wheel Q?

For the Heavy Chevy:
As I have always understood it, ONLY the 14in Ralley wheel, center cap and NO trim ring, was standard on the Heavy Chevy pkg. Also, if you have a copy of Dale McIntosh's book (credit MUST be given to Dale for the tons of research he did for this book), he states that the 5-spoke SS 15in wheel was not factory available on the Heavy Chevy, but of course could be added by the dealer or the owner.
As a side note, Dale also points out that the Camaro and Chevelle 5-spoke wheels ARE NOT the same, even though they look like they are the same. Anyone know what the difference is???
And as a personal comment, I think the 5-spoke SS wheels are about the best factory wheel to ever be offered by Chevrolet. I only wish they were made in an 8in wide instead of a 7in wide wheel! If they were made in an 8in wide they would be on our 70 instead of the 15x8 Corvette Ralleys (but I do have the 5-spoke on the boat trailer).
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I've throw several of those ugly wheels in the scrap.

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Tom, The 71-72 SS Chevelle wheels vs Camero Wheels: The rise in each center of the spoke is different, as I recall the Chevelle spoke (5) is flatter vs the Camaro spoke which is rounder from side to side. It could be the other way around, but I do recall there is a distinct difference that is visible to the eye.

The ZJ7 Rally has been declared one of the fugliest wheels GM put out, but for the sake of clarity "is the correct wheel for the Heavies. Typically going for 2-300.00 for clean sets now. I powder coated mine per the photo above. The first photo is a finished wheel, no cap. The second photo shows the cap in place. Note: There are two part numbers available for that Rally cap, one is for a metal cap, one is for plastic. I have the metal caps on the 72'. These Rallys were also used on some Novas as well.

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It's your car, you certainly can do what you prefer. Regarding options on the YF3, they were pretty clear and they were pretty limited. Chevrolet did not want to dilute the very successful marketing campaign of The SS. So limitations were imposed on the YF3 options, no cowl induction, no SS wheels, no 454's, no M22 trannys to name a few. There were other no go's also, no carpet, no bucket seats, the 402 was the biggest cube you could buy in a Heavy. Essentially these were base model Chevelles with a marketing package meant to appeal to the younger generation, pretty heavy man.

To be clear The 71-72 SS wheels were never offered as part of a sales option choice.
Spot on.
When Chevy & GM saw the low budget Road Runner's success story they sort of copied it with the low priced "Heavy Chevy" option package.This was to get some of the marketplace back that was lost at the time due to insurance regs at that time and also to appeal to a younger buyer's shorter pockets.I think this may be the reason for the lack of available options being offered to Heavy Chevy buyers.
Along with the HC from Chevy,GM their was also a Pontiac version of the GTO.Pontiac called it the GT-37 and Olds had a low cost Cutlass to go with their 442.I think it was called the Cutlass S.I'm not aware of any low priced Buick A-body models but I wouldn't be surprised if they had them too.
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