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post #16 of 78 (permalink) Old Jun 5th, 17, 6:00 PM
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

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Steering box is now on my must buy list since I'm swaping frames right now.
Is the JC still the go to solution? I looked... Can't buy a new one from Dodge anymore so I guess it's an aftermarket or remanufactured i'll have to go with.
Any buying tips?

Or hey, Did anyone do business with( or hear anything about) Lee since they opened back up? I heard a lot of good things about them before they closed down anyway...
Hector Carillo (Carhex) sells the correct #6/7 GM boxes that require no hose adapters and uses the factory rag joint. He retrofits new fast ratio guts in your old box or can supply a core.

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BTW - if you send your box to him, a USPS LARGE flat rate box works for under $20

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That is a great option.

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post #19 of 78 (permalink) Old Jun 5th, 17, 8:58 PM
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QUICK RATIO POWER STEERING BOX CHEVELLE SKYLARK CUTLASS GTO CAMARO NOVA IMPALA | eBay

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post #20 of 78 (permalink) Old Jun 5th, 17, 9:10 PM
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

The only issue is what T-bar do they have? The JGC box has the .195 T-bar, so you get better road feel and a little heavier steering. The factory boxes have the .175 T-bar and quite light steering and less road feel.

I had an AGR box with a .210 T-bar. It was very heavy steering, but also defective and wouldn't return to center at all. AGR stood by it even after it was out of warranty and sent me a new one, and they also sent me one with a .204 T-bar instead at no charge. I haven't installed it yet, so I still have a reman stock box with the light .175 T-bar in it.

Once my current to-do list is done, and I have time to mess with it, I'll swap in the AGR box, see if it works right and also check the feel. I'm hopeful, plus the AGR is sunk cost and out of warranty now so if it doesn't work I'll get it rebuilt as it should have plenty of good parts to work with and has the nice billet cap and housing end (I'm not looking for stock appearance.)

So it's not just the fast ratio, it's also the T-bar size and thus road feel.
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post #21 of 78 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 17, 1:54 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

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BTW - if you send your box to him, a USPS LARGE flat rate box works for under $20

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I'm in Canada so it will cost way more..

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post #22 of 78 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 17, 1:56 AM Thread Starter
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Hector Carillo (Carhex) sells the correct #6/7 GM boxes that require no hose adapters and uses the factory rag joint. He retrofits new fast ratio guts in your old box or can supply a core.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...71461979597583

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This sounds like a good option... I'm not on facebook though... Might have to get the wife to open it for me...

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This sounds like a good option... I'm not on facebook though... Might have to get the wife to open it for me...
Leave the wife out in the garage and click on the link I threw up in post #19 above. It's the same guy, guy.
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Look for a seller on ebay called deadjeeps. He sells them for $88 shipped and checks them out. Mine was perfect and probably the best upgrade per dollar I've made.

Thanks for the tip, just ordered one. The auto zone "rebuild" I used leaks badly (top plate to box) but I guess at least I got lucky-ish and it was the quick ratio. Had it on the shelf too long to return.
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The only issue is what T-bar do they have?
Zactly I messaged Carhex on eBay lastnight and he states he uses the oem t-bar.

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Another very good option is the Cardone Lifetime Warranty 12.7:1 box for the 1987 Grand National. If you've ever driven a GN, you know how wonderful they drive.


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Zactly I messaged Carhex on eBay lastnight and he states he uses the oem t-bar.
I wonder if he would put in the Tbar you want... I'm gonna phone him tomorrow.
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

My Lee 14:1 is 3 turns lock to lock.. The 30lb valve gives excellent road feel.. When I let go of the wheel, it snaps back quick and hard.. My 69 feels like a new Camaro with a rack..

Keep in mind, no steering box is going to change the backward camber or add 5+ degrees of positive caster to the stock suspension..

I paid around 5 bills for my totally new, blueprinted Lee 14:1..
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

Has anyone here tried one of Carhex's steering box's?how is the overall feel? I have an original '66 El Camino with 396 and power steering,would I need to change valves on my set up if using a Carhex upgrade?
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Re: Jeep GC still the best steering box upgrade?

Here's a local option: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NSP88277060


It says it is a 2 1/2-3 turn box, but doesn't give many other details. Taking it back to a store would be better than shipping it back if your not happy.

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