Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach - Chevelle Tech
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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 15, 1:08 PM Thread Starter
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Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

Does anyone have a fix for this situation.

I installed a new AGR quick ratio box in my '65 Malibu.
The rag-joint seemed like it stretched a bit to reach across to bolt back into the steering shaft flange as the steering "stops" barely reached.

While installing the new engine, I thought it prudent to replace the rag and realized that the space between the steering box flange and the steering shaft flange is too large to allow the rag-joint to stay flat.

I noticed the steering wheel shaft had a little end play and the retainer had slipped 1/2" so had my wife press the steering wheel forward while it tightened it back where it should be. But it still isn't close enough to the steering box to be correct.

Pic is where we're at right now.

Any thoughts? Solutions?
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Re: Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

Roger, you've either got a damaged/bent steering column or maybe some frame damage. Check your body alignment to frame. If this checks OK, try loosening the steering collar on the inside of the firewall and loosening the column bolts at the bottom of the dashboard to see if you can push the column forward. Your photo seems to show the rag joint and steering shaft approaching each other at an angle, this is not normal.

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Re: Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

Thank you Randy, I'll check that out right now. I didn't think the attach point under the dash could be keeping it back but I have sneaky suspicion that's the problem.

I kept googling variations of my problem this morning and discovered it's quite common for people to pry between the steering box flange and steering shaft flange, pushing the steering column back inadvertently.


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Re: Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

There is also typically a spring under the steering wheel that will push the wheel (and inner column) up out of the outer column jacket (and therefore away from the steering box).

As mentioned, loosen the column-to-dash bolts so the entire column can be pushed forward slightly, attach the shaft to the rag joint, and then readjust the column to the dash... May need to pull the steering wheel off too...

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Re: Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

Also loosen the clamp on the steering shaft out side the firewall

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Re: Rag-joint replacement in '65 w/AGR quick ratio box. Won't reach

I don't think your wife was pushing hard enough. I had the same issue on my 66 and had to get my son to move and tighten the flame while I pushed on the wheel.
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