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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Nov 26th, 17, 8:10 AM Thread Starter
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4 wheel disc recommendations

As the title says I'm looking for recommendations for 4 wheel disc conversion. I have a hydro boost mc, not sure if I want to go that route, not very eye appealing, but not opposed to it. Will likely have Fatman 2" drop spindles, and running a 6.0L. Just looking for options.

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

Initially, I decided to upgrade to front discs while keeping my rear drums. A few weeks ago I decided to just go the 4 wheel disc route. I chose Kore3 to supply my front and recently contacted Tobin about the rears. Iím using their C5 calipers and rotors.

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

What are your intentions? Street use? Road Racing? Looks? Cool factor?

I've been looking also and I'll probably go with a relatively inexpensive Kit retailed through Inline Tube (Inline Tube has the best price on my kit). The kit is assembled by MBM Brakes (MBM is wholesale only) using GM parts -- I figure if I have to replace a part the GM stuff will be easy to locate. Whereas, I'm looking at price and availability of parts (and e-brakes), there are other kits with drilled and slotted rotors, up graded Caliphers, etc.

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

I've been looking also, so this thread is of interest to me. In my case though, I want to keep 15" wheels and a parking brake. So it seems my options are limited.

To the OP - what parameters are you looking for? Wheels, parking brake, etc?

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

Michael, you might want to PM Philip, a member here who's done a 4 whl disc installation using all GM parts IIRC, I'm sure he'll be glad to fill you in, good luck!!

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

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I've been looking also, I want to keep 15" wheels and a parking brake.
This:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-77-GM-...53.m1438.l2649

Also available on their website. Drilled and Slotted Rotors are available as an upgrade.

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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

Saw that. But it says not for use with C-clip eliminators. I shoulda mentioned that for a 12 bolt, and I may also go with a Moser 9". Haven't decided yet.

Right now I am going with a rear end with 9.5" Factory GM drum brakes. Moser offers them with both 12 Bolt and 9".

So, won't work with a Moser 12 bolt with C-clip eliminators. Probably won't work with a 9" Moser either (even if it has the GM 9.5" drum brakes on it.)

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This:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-77-GM-...53.m1438.l2649

Also available on their website. Drilled and Slotted Rotors are available as an upgrade.

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I've been looking also, so this thread is of interest to me. In my case though, I want to keep 15" wheels and a parking brake. So it seems my options are limited.

To the OP - what parameters are you looking for? Wheels, parking brake, etc?
Looking to go with 17 or 18" wheels with parking brake, I think my options are a little better.

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What are your intentions? Street use? Road Racing? Looks? Cool factor?

I've been looking also and I'll probably go with a relatively inexpensive Kit retailed through Inline Tube (Inline Tube has the best price on my kit). The kit is assembled by MBM Brakes (MBM is wholesale only) using GM parts -- I figure if I have to replace a part the GM stuff will be easy to locate. Whereas, I'm looking at price and availability of parts (and e-brakes), there are other kits with drilled and slotted rotors, up graded Caliphers, etc.
Thanks Bruce, I'll check them out, intentions are mainly street use but I do like to carve some of these south Missouri roads.

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Thereís two reasons to go with anything bigger than stock sized GM style disc brakes. Track use and appearance/cool factor. For street driving, even spirited driving the stock style brakes stop on a dime, and give you change. Now if you will see any track time, thatís where bigger more powerful brakes will really shine. Then thereís the just because I can reason. Big Wilwoods or Baer brakes look bad ass, especially through some larger wheels with an open spoke design. But you have to really open your wallet for that.
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Re: 4 wheel disc recommendations

I like the 98 - 02 F body brakes. They are basically a bolt on, 12" rotors, dual piston aluminum caliper front, single piston aluminum caliper rear and a shoe type parking brake set up in the rear rotor that is independent of the caliper that will actually hold the car in place unlike the GM look alike in the inline tube kit. The stock parking brake cable system can be used with only the rear cables needing a small modification.
I have installed the F body brakes front and rear on several cars including my 72 wagon, my 64 Nova and soon on my 63 Nova wagon. Also used the rear F body brakes on my 77 Nova. They are inexpensive, easy to install and parts can be purchased at any parts store.
My Chevelle wagon has a hydroboost from an 03 Chevy 1 ton and it will stop the car straight and quick with very little effort. One thing to keep in mind tires play a big role in brake performance, it is not just the brakes you need to upgrade. With good tires even the stock brakes will perform better.
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I like the 98 - 02 F body brakes. They are basically a bolt on, 12" rotors, dual piston aluminum caliper front, single piston aluminum caliper rear and a shoe type parking brake set up in the rear rotor that is independent of the caliper that will actually hold the car in place unlike the GM look alike in the inline tube kit. The stock parking brake cable system can be used with only the rear cables needing a small modification.
I have installed the F body brakes front and rear on several cars including my 72 wagon, my 64 Nova and soon on my 63 Nova wagon. Also used the rear F body brakes on my 77 Nova. They are inexpensive, easy to install and parts can be purchased at any parts store.
My Chevelle wagon has a hydroboost from an 03 Chevy 1 ton and it will stop the car straight and quick with very little effort. One thing to keep in mind tires play a big role in brake performance, it is not just the brakes you need to upgrade. With good tires even the stock brakes will perform better.
Thanks Philip, I'm pretty new at building a disc setup, with my only experience at replacing pads. Didn't mention that I'll be installing 2" Fatman tall drop spindles. Do you know if the 98 -02 F Body setup will work with these spindles? I assume that these are manufactured to accept most modern brake systems. Also did you source them from a local salvage or pick n pull?

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Philip, so they bolt on to the stock brackets, spindle etc?
Thought about 4w disc but after putting it together found it stopped great with the stock setup (once it was all new)
Would consider it if there was a truly cost effective way that didnt involve cobbling, new brake lines etc

Do they discs change the backspace need at all esp in the rear Im pretty tight on space as it is out back. (67)

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Thanks Philip, I'm pretty new at building a disc setup, with my only experience at replacing pads. Didn't mention that I'll be installing 2" Fatman tall drop spindles. Do you know if the 98 -02 F Body setup will work with these spindles? I assume that these are manufactured to accept most modern brake systems. Also did you source them from a local salvage or pick n pull?
Not sure about the Fatman dropped spindles. I used stock GM spindles on all the conversion I have done. Front calipers purchased from NAPA, caliper mounting bracket from Church Boys Racing. Rear setup used from pull a part yard. A spacer is needed between the rear mounting flange and the rear brake assembly to align mounting bracket over the rotor, size varies from car to car. F body cables modified to attach to stock setup. Front uses the drum brake hubs machined down on the OD to fit inside the F body rotor. Shop charged me $20 to both hubs. Longer wheel studs required front and rear, nothing special NAPA stocks them.

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Philip, so they bolt on to the stock brackets, spindle etc?
Thought about 4w disc but after putting it together found it stopped great with the stock setup (once it was all new)
Would consider it if there was a truly cost effective way that didnt involve cobbling, new brake lines etc

Do they discs change the backspace need at all esp in the rear Im pretty tight on space as it is out back. (67)
Uses the factory spindles, both drum and disc will work, disc spindles need a spacer at the top mount. CBR brackets include the spacer. Factory hard lines, factory front hoses and rear hose, F body rear hoses at the calipers. Rear track is wider the thickness of the rotor over the drum. 82 Corvette master cylinder will fit on the factory booster, combination valve of your choice for 4 wheel disc. I used an 82 Cadillac Eldorado valve. It was a bolt on in the stock location with the stock disc/drum hard lines.

I should probably do a thread on the install. Have plenty of photos.
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I have the 4 wheel power disc kit from right stuff detailing. Everything just bolts on and works fine. Unless you are building a road course race car or single digit et drag car, you won't need more than this. The kit is all stock replacement style parts.
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