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post #16 of 50 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 19, 12:08 PM
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Re: 1969 13537 vin

Possible that the cowl tag is original and the VIN has been swapped? Have you checked the hidden VINs against the VIN tag? Pray to God the VIN tag hasn't been changed.
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post #17 of 50 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 19, 4:04 PM Thread Starter
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Working on a clear picture of VIN... I understand the cowl tag doesn’t have the vin.

Should the cowl should at least match up with vin? I.E., if 13637 is on cowl tag , that should match first 5 digits of vin?

Or can it have 13537 say on cowl tag, and vin could be 13637xxxxxxxxx
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Should the cowl should at least match up with vin? I.E., if 13637 is on cowl tag , that should match first 5 digits of vin? Or can it have 13537 say on cowl tag, and vin could be 13637xxxxxxxxx
On a 1969 Chevelle, the first five numbers on the Vehicle Identification Number Plate (as seen through the windshield on the drivers side of the car) should match up with the first five numbers on the Cowl Tag (this is not the case on Camaros, but that is another story). At this point the Cowl Tag's "First Five" numbers are somewhat unimportant: the VIN Plate is what matters. You will also want to check the VIN as printed on the Title Card, and on any Chevrolet-supplied documentation you may have (POP, Build Sheet, etc.).

A discrepancy between the car's correct VIN Plate and the car's incorrect State-issued Title Card is a cause for some minor concern, but it shouldn't be the end of the world.

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Re: 1969 13537 vin

from chevellestuff on the cowl tag body style numbers;

"The Fisher Body Style Number does not necessarily correlate with the GM VIN as to whether the car was built with an L6 or V8 engine. In 1969 the only known plants to use the same style number on the Fisher Body Number Plate that matched GM's VIN were the Framingham, MA., the Fremont, CA. and Oshawa, ON. plants. This means that EXCEPT for Framingham, Fremont and Oshawa, all other plants would use a style number of, for example, 13637 for a Malibu 2-door sport coupe whether that particular car came with an L6 or V8."

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Re: 1969 13537 vin

I noticed something that I've never seen on a KC tag before. Any pics of the tag straight on and the entire tag, not cropped?
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Re: 1969 13537 vin

Anyone notice anything odd about the rivets securing the trim tag? The center is still intact and lacks the typical filler applied to the rivet. I wonder if the backside of the rivets is properly peened or if the trim tag and rivets are held in place with a glue or silicone.

Make your own conclusions on the VIN and trim tag. I'd have to see more of the car to make mine.
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Re: 1969 13537 vin

Sniff, sniff, what's that I smell? It is time to pull the Heater Cover and check the Con VINs.

I'd still like to hear what the Title Card has to say.

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I noticed something that I've never seen on a KC tag before. Any pics of the tag straight on and the entire tag, not cropped?
It appears to be the correctly sized trim tag for a 10C build date. Around 11b of the 69 model year they changed the physical size of the tag 1-3/4"x4" to 2-3/16"x3-1/2" and it was more square than rectangular.


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Actually it was 11A on the Kan tags. I've seen naked rivets of cars that had no reason to be tampered with, so that's not a concern, although there appears to be a dab in the center?? The inconsistency is minor but you'd have to study the KC tags to pick it up.
I agree with the convin comment, but sometimes that's not an option. It does look to be a restoration so the builder or owner should have documented all this before reassembly. If not, you'll raise a ton of skepticism. I'm not saying or implying that this is not correct, just that since it's an anomaly, it needs to be approached with due diligence.
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...It does look to be a restoration so the builder or owner should have documented all this before reassembly. If not, you'll raise a ton of skepticism. I'm not saying or implying that this is not correct, just that since it's an anomaly, it needs to be approached with due diligence.
Based on only what we know from this thread, with cropped pictures, I am thinking the cowl tag is probably a "replacement", adding the all-important "L" and "72-72" to help increase the resale value from unsuspecting buyers...

Yep, use due diligence, and approach the car based on the quality of the build AND the 135 VIN...

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Are there any pictures of the car as a whole and details of the engine compartment, interior, underside, etc.?

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Re: 1969 13537 vin

So someone found a 6 cylinder vin number 69 with monaco orange SS ONLY colored cowl tag. that is strange especially since the 1353 is on the cowl tag too and having code 72 paint.

I once saw a completely original 67 malibu 1 owner 283 car that had a 1381 vin tag and cowl tag on it and i thought that was the weirdest thing ever.
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So someone found a 6 cylinder vin number 69 with monaco orange SS ONLY colored cowl tag. that is strange especially since the 1353 is on the cowl tag too and having code 72 paint.
Just a minor "point of law:" If a 1969 Chevelle was Special Ordered with a non-standard paint (such as Hugger/Monaco Orange) the Trim Tag would have a pair of dashes on it and not "72 72."

I still want hear what the Title Card shows.
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Might be a Paper title

I recall seeing a 136 car with 135 on the trim tag on here before but I don't remember the year.

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