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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Jan 27th, 19, 9:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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I know its wishful thinking but was wondering exactly where all build sheets were placed in a 69 Chevelle. I know under the seats and carpet sometimes under the door panel but seems they have been apart before, so was hoping maybe somewhere else that someone hasn't been. thanks
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From the Kansas City plant (for future readers)

I've looked everywhere except above the headliner in my KAN 69 and never found one.

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Pisses me off have the same thing on my 70 L-78 nova that I bought off a friend who bought it new. He said he never removed one and I never found one, but at least on that one I have full documentation. Damm you GM
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On top of the gas tank and inside of body panels are two other possibilities.

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And GM never "placed them" they were more of "discarded" there as part of the assembly process by the guys on the line, correct?
I understand some were attached to parts like seats so then ended up in the right car at the right time.

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I understand that finding a build sheet in a '69 Chevelle that was assembled in Baltimore (like mine) is quite rare.
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And GM never "placed them" they were more of "discarded" there as part of the assembly process by the guys on the line, correct?
I understand some were attached to parts like seats so then ended up in the right car at the right time.
Ditto. Assembly plants didn't "hide" them in a car to be discovered years later in a treasure hunt. Varies with year and plant where one might find one, two, or even three. Sub-assembly stations would attach them to the door panel, on top of the gas tank, stuff them in the headliner, cram them under the driver side footwell, hog ring them to underside or back of seats, anywhere they could either by plant SOP or just so they didn't have trash at their station.

1969 was a transition year for many plants going from the BODY/CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY sheets to a single broadcast copy (commonly called a build sheet today). Fremont and Framingham were using the common build sheet as far back as 1965 that I know of along with things like a PASSENGER CAR BROADCAST COPY or PRODUCTION BROADCAST NOTE.

To date, I've found that both KC and Baltimore used both BODY BROADCAST COPY/CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY paperwork as well as build sheets. Some 1969 are found on my old website ChevelleStuff.net on page 1969 Chevelle Build Sheet. On that page, there are links to other years (1964 thru 1972) showing examples found for various Chevelle plants.

I've had contact with gentlemen that have found Buick build sheets in the KC Chevelle. Another found 3 build sheets in his 70 - problem was they were for 3 different Chevelles (in sequential order) and none were his car; one a 13669 Malibu sedan, one a 13680 El Camino, and one 13337 Chevelle sport coupe.
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Thanks for those examples, Dale. The only factory paper I found in my car was an "IBM" card under the rear seat springs that identified the interior code (755). When I tried to extricate the card in one piece it came apart near the center, having been pinched for 48 years by a seat spring.

I also found tags under the door panel that were glued to the steel inner doors. These had part numbers, identified the doors as to right and left and had "BAL" in large letters.

I am quite certain my dash pad and headliner are original, so there could yet be a Build or Broadcast sheet hidden on this car.
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And GM never "placed them" they were more of "discarded" there as part of the assembly process by the guys on the line, correct?
I understand some were attached to parts like seats so then ended up in the right car at the right time.
or pasted to the backs of floor panels. Making removal pointless or tedious. It seems they would stack parts and used build sheets as a sort of pull list for a particular car. I can imagine a stack of parts in a bin or on a pallet with a build sheet to show its final destination. I can see this happening in various parts of the plant. If the build sheets were attached firmly enough and were not exposed at final inspection, they were left where they were at time of assembly.

I have heard of some build sheets found crumpled up in places like behind fenders or in the trunk drop off areas. I'm not sure I can document this, it's just hearsay.

I'm surprised no assembly worker has come forward to reveal the process. It's getting late in the game now, so many have probably moved on to a better place.
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Ditto. Assembly plants didn't "hide" them in a car to be discovered years later in a treasure hunt. Varies with year and plant where one might find one, two, or even three. Sub-assembly stations would attach them to the door panel, on top of the gas tank, stuff them in the headliner, cram them under the driver side footwell, hog ring them to underside or back of seats, anywhere they could either by plant SOP or just so they didn't have trash at their station
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My 69, which I purchased new, had one under the rear seat cushion that I remember, and one tucked in a hole in the right side frame above the front spindle. That's all I can remember from way back then. When the gas tank was dropped during the current restoration, most of the one placed on the top was salvageable, but still has critical areas missing.

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I would love to find one for my El Camino. I know everything that we changed over the last 22 years, but the 30 before that is unknown.

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My 69, which I purchased new, had one under the rear seat cushion that I remember, and one tucked in a hole in the right side frame above the front spindle. That's all I can remember from way back then. When the gas tank was dropped during the current restoration, most of the one placed on the top was salvageable, but still has critical areas missing.

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