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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old Nov 30th, 18, 11:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

Finally at a point in life to begin my rebuild of my 70 Chevelle I purchased in 2006. So I stripped the car down and have been researching this forum for the common signs of an SS. The cowl tag below is from the car, original engine has been replaced, interior doesn't match cowl tag as the car has black interior bucket seats with center console, ss emblems on everything from steering wheel, door panel, front fender, grill, and rear bumper pad. The dash has the round gauges however they are in a 72 carrier (seat belt warning light), lettering isn't green, but I have a clock that is stamped June 2 1970. The speedometer is dated Nov. 5 1971 and I believe the number stamped on back is standard for a 71. Do the wheels look correct? The tach isn't original to a 70 either, looks like 71 according to the stamped number on the back and is redlined for a small block as well. The car has front disc brakes and I am still in process of pulling the trans numbers and axle code to see if they are original, the rear axle is a 10 bolt which isn't a good sign but was told it was replaced years ago as well. The current engine is a 350 th400 police according to the VIN so not original to the car.

My question is this, is there anything from the pictures presented below and the information above that could help shed light on this car? no build sheet in the back bench seat so I am out of luck there. I do have the "B" on the cowl tag.....

I have more pics of the firewall of the car are interior but I reached my 15 max.

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TR 776 58 BPNT
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

I think the Fender emblems are in the incorrect location. Maybe the angle playing tricks on me, but they don't appear to be located properly.

Check the steering rag joint. This will tell you it was a big block car unless it was changed. Should be a bolt through where the shaft connects.

If the radiator top plate has 3 bolts it's not a big block car.

front and rear sway bars. Measure the diameter of the front bar.

Boxed rear lower control arms.

Nothing in that dash to prove or disprove, unless you find the build sheet.

Honestly, it's not looking promising that you will be able to prove it ever was an SS, I would just rebuild it as well as you can and don't worry about it.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

Here's a link to your first inquiry on your car. The best of the best answered most of your questions there. https://www.chevelles.com/forums/15-...6-true-ss.html

The wheels on your car are called Rally wheels. Rally wheels did not come on the SS model. The 1970 SS Chevelle was equipped with AO or AY coded Magnum 500 steel 14 inch wheels.

Check inside the front door panels, under the carpet, top of the fuel tank. inside the rear seat springs for areas where build sheets are commonly found.

By all means, if you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Here are a few more resources that may help you:

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https://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/dont...0-chevelle-ss/

For proper fender emblem placement 1970-1972 Chevelle SS, Refer to the LH & RH diagrams, (see attachments) shown on each one is a "5" and a "20" in a small circle. Those two numbers are used to create reference lines from which all other measurements are taken. The 20 means a line 20" up from the bottom of the fender, while the 5 means a line 5" forward of the back of the fender. *this does not apply to El Caminos as their placement differs* Templates are also available through reproduction parts suppliers.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

The Chevelle came with AO and YA coded wheels. Not AO and AY as AL stated. He just accidently reversed some letters.
That cluster seems to be a mixture of pieces from different year clusters. It is not a 1970 cluster. 1970 used green tinted numbers and letters on the clusters.
The dash carrier/ housing is for a 1972. Hopefully you have a 1970 wire harness, if not you will have a problem there. You will need a correct harness for a 1970.
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The Chevelle came with AO and YA coded wheels. Not AO and AY as AL stated. He just accidently reversed some letters.
Thanks for the correction.

I actually have it written down right in front of me and choked. Must be dyslexia or old-timers caching up with me.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

I think I see another issue in the picture of the car. The SS had clear turn signals in the front bumper with amber bulbs. I think I'm seeing orange lenses.

SS also came standard with hood pins. (except for some of the early '70 models, those built around April of 1970 or earlier, that were not ordered with Cowl Induction) https://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html Being a 06A - First week of June, 1970 car, it should have hood pins if it were an SS.

I also suffer from CSS (can't see schite), so take that into consideration.
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Thanks for the correction.

I actually have it written down right in front of me and choked. Must be dyslexia or old-timers caching up with me.
It happens to me once in a while also. I can't remember if I have old timers or not. Lol.
I to was wondering what color those parking light lenses were.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

From the information provided, calling it an SS will be a stretch. Iím thinking someone substituted parts to create the SS image.
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Finally at a point in life to begin my rebuild of my 70 Chevelle I purchased in 2006. So I stripped the car down and have been researching this forum for the common signs of an SS. The cowl tag below is from the car, original engine has been replaced, interior doesn't match cowl tag as the car has black interior bucket seats with center console, ss emblems on everything from steering wheel, door panel, front fender, grill, and rear bumper pad. The dash has the round gauges however they are in a 72 carrier (seat belt warning light), lettering isn't green, but I have a clock that is stamped June 2 1970. The speedometer is dated Nov. 5 1971 and I believe the number stamped on back is standard for a 71. Do the wheels look correct? The tach isn't original to a 70 either, looks like 71 according to the stamped number on the back and is redlined for a small block as well. The car has front disc brakes and I am still in process of pulling the trans numbers and axle code to see if they are original, the rear axle is a 10 bolt which isn't a good sign but was told it was replaced years ago as well. The current engine is a 350 th400 police according to the VIN so not original to the car.

My question is this, is there anything from the pictures presented below and the information above that could help shed light on this car? no build sheet in the back bench seat so I am out of luck there. I do have the "B" on the cowl tag.....

I have more pics of the firewall of the car are interior but I reached my 15 max.

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ST70 13637 B331656BDY
TR 776 58 BPNT
06A B 0076
No, not really, everything could be from other cars
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

Easy check would be if the kickdown switch and factory wiring for the switch is in place.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

Does the intermediate steering shaft have a bolt on flange? Post a picture of the steering shaft showing the end of it toward the front of the car. You also need to find out if the car had the Malibu trim along the top of the fenders doors and rear quarters. Do the fenders show signs on the back sides from having Malibu emblems on them?
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

I will be digging things out of storage in a few weeks and will post back. Here are few more pics of firewall and interior.
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Here are the follow up pics as promised along with codes found.hopefully someone can help decode. Curious about the partial vin below the blower motor? Engine, transmission, wheels are FW coded (71 Monte Carlo), and rear end are not original if I am decoding correctly. Radiator cover is 4 bolt, front signal lights are clear, kick down switch is in car, and I did not find Malibu trim holes on body or top of doors. Anything here look original? Originally a bench seat car so the automatic cutout in the floor pan is incorrect? I know I will never be able to prove anything but it has been a great learning experience so far.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

The plastic fan shroud ( in the picture) looks like a 71/72 not a 1970. May be for a small block? , It is not a B.B.
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Re: Help with identifying 70 SS or no??

The premise of my response is the reason to worry about whether it is a factory built SS has to do with supporting value. If thatís not the case, donít bother reading the rest of my response.

This is just my opinion and I donít intend to be dismissive or antagonistic. It wonít matter whether itís a Ď70 SS or not. Because without documentary evidence, such as a legitimate build sheet, original window sticker, sales order, engine or trans with partial VIN numbers the knowledgeable buying public will not accept the car as legitimate. Even original ownersí memories about what it was or wasnít are not generally accepted.

Build the car to a high standard and it will hold its inherent value in that realm. Enjoy it and donít torture yourself trying to categorize it as something that it may not be.
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