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post #1 of 394 (permalink) Old Feb 28th, 17, 1:39 PM Thread Starter
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Talking 1964 4 door Malibu - LQ4/T56 build

Hey all,

Been lurking/learning, time to start my thread. I've done a couple S10/blazer V8 swaps over the years, know wiring and fuel injection pretty well, thought it was time to jump into a classic build. Lol, yea, get a hot rod they said, it'll be fun they said!

Here's where I left off, built this blazer as my daily driver, 06 L33 5.3L V8, LS6 cam/springs, shorty swap headers, dual high flow cats, single magnaflow, emissions legal, dynamatted the interior, everything worked, cruise, a/c, everything. Guy purchased it, took a one way flight from TX to NC, then drove it home with no issues.



After selling it, thought I'd be ok with the empty void. Started twitching and increasing all the wire sizes in phone chargers so the wife let me out of the cage.

Tried to start out economical and find "the one". Was about to pull the trigger on a completely clapped out 2 door when this one surfaced 3 hrs away.

1964 2 owner more door chevelle Malibu. Right now has a early/mid 80's 305 and original powerglide







Dude's father bought it brand new in 64, drove it forever, started a restore on it but passed away, son got it. He tried to continue the resto work but failed miserably, lost motivation. His mother came down with leukemia, needed money, brought it to this guy's hot rod shop and asked what he'd give him. Shop owner bought it for $2500, sold it to me for $2700.

It's got a ton of jackassery that will need to be undone, but this is going to be around awhile, test my patience, and my wallet.

Plans are better suspension than the blazer, LS 6.0, T56, long tubes, BIG cam.

Going to start out getting it "right" as far as wiring and what not goes, lots of bare wires twisted together and left, wires straight off the battery with no fuse, etc. Skin is crawling just typing that.

PS: Hate red, have no need for it, just seems like every poverty priced vehicle I find is red.
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post #2 of 394 (permalink) Old Feb 28th, 17, 1:43 PM Thread Starter
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Re: 1964 4 door Malibu - LQ4/T56 build

When I talked with the shop owner we hit it off pretty well, he's a cool guy. Got down there, he reached in and it fired right up. Ok.. did the walk around, bs'd some, then he brought me in for the in depth tour of his shop. Oh, the car was still idling. Finally get back out, pay him, get the title, car still idling. Prep trailer, hop in, run out of gas.

Get it on trailer, get to gas station.





Go around pulling all loose lights, trim, emblems off so nothing falls off coming home (3.5 hrs). Door and fender trim held on by widdled plastic trees inserted in the back. Got it all taken care of, nephew arranged all the emblems on the driver's seat while I talked with a homeless couple admiring the car. You know you did ok when a homeless guy tells you you stole it.

Get home late, dark out, everyone is ready to be done, no interior lights. I rush, hop in car, crush every emblem with my fat ass. Ok.. then car wouldn't start so we push it into the garage. I notice I can hear everyone behind the car clearly but don't think anything of it. Get it in the garage under lights.. no back window. Idiot just propped the rear window in the car, not a drop of glue or anything. Gouged the driver's fender on its way out too.



Battery was drained from trying to start with no gas, pop charger on it and it fired right up. Doesn't sound bad for a 305. Exhaust is crimped pretty good, has the old school high compression sound to it. Rear tail pipes are held on with plastic strapping.

Got a chance to get under it last night, took a minute to get it jacked up, and had a good laugh. First had to jack it up by the frame horn by the sway bar mount, damn thing is LOW.



There's an AutoZone somewhere cleaned out! Same look on the other side, actually splurged and had metal bolt style expanders on the back coils.



Normal neglected hot rod





How it sits



And first purchase/unjackassery item complete.



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Re: 1964 4 door Malibu - LQ4/T56 build

And the fun starts.

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post #4 of 394 (permalink) Old Feb 28th, 17, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
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And the fun starts.
Lol, but wait! There's more! I'm further along into it, have to get this thread caught up.

It's already been a steady learning curve on wiring and assembly. I'm used to late model stuff, this is easier and harder at the same time. Rust in light sockets and unwired grounds are getting me. I'm enjoying it and getting some good laughs on po's work.

Quick shot of engine bay as purchased. Going to clean it up soon, there's so much to do I'm seriously struggling with add!



Casting #s on the block says GM 5.0L and 14010201. Shop owner said he thought the engine was original, but when I saw plastic sensors and o2s on the logs, I knew different. Looked up the casting numbers, one site says 80-85 camaro/nova 305, another site says 78-79. Doesn't matter, I kinda know what I'm working with, all good. The way the exhaust sounds I really thought it was a 350. It's very deep and has a high compression pop, when you walk behind the car the exhaust rattles your pant legs. Figured out it's 2" crimped pipe with glass packs, seriously sounds like a 12:1 350 though..



Also got a quick shot of the high dollar hybrid synthetic exhaust hangers, must be a new product, I haven't heard of them. No idea about the angle iron on the frame..



Wife is already green lighting interior stuff as she's got bad allergies and I "think" she likes the car.. She mentioned something about a lot of dust in the interior, she's been checking it out. This could lead to good things!

It's got brand new tires all the way around! Super cheap chinese 14's, more tread for testing purposes!
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Driver's seat shot



Need to find the mfg of these synthetic hangers, they're crap!



Car already has upgraded front disc brake setup with dual master.

Drivers side "slotted" rotor, one broken stud, one lug finger tight, 2 different size nuts..



On top of the lug nut fun, check out the bearing action on this bad boy! Pass side shows just as much play. I'm extremely glad I didn't try to take this down the road.

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Passenger



I'm fortunate enough to have found a car that was meticulously maintained. There's a grease zerk in there I'm assuming.



Wondered why it had a high idle, one spring wrapped around the engine hook, rusted in half.. twice..



This one shows a couple.. wires going into the firewall through the ungrommeted hole is straight off the battery. It's normal to loop plug wires around your master, right? Check out the shock bushing and stack of shims, and you can just make out the o2 sensor in the bottom of the log (in between 3 & 5 plug wires).

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Trying to get it roadworthy and reliable, get the wiring straight, everything functional, while trying not to invest too much money into. Since it's an out of state classic I have to have it inspected by the license and theft bureau. If that goes through cleanly and I receive a title (all #s match on paperwork, don't think it'll be a problem), I'm going to throttle up a little bit and get some serious hard parts on order. Been holding myself back so I don't loose too much if it turns up a bad deal.

Dear Craigslist, I love you.

BRP Hot rods mounts



Trans cross member



And ceramic coated long tubes



Guy selling these was an awesome dude. His Chevelle was the test bed for Hotchkis suspension and was a centerfold car for Chevy High Performance in '07. Hoping to get his suspension when he upgrades in March.

On the downside I've done some reading on BRP stuff, sits the motor high. Hope I can modify them (not much invested so won't feel bad cutting them up) to work and the headers not bang into anything. Waited quite a while for my first set of longtubes. Fully stoked!!

Forgot to mention the seller of the longtubes has a crazy LS setup in his car with a NASCAR type front end/accy. Weird water pump, Ford distributor, etc. He had to push the engine so far back he couldn't use this setup. Oh, he also designs and manufactures the shocks that Detroit Speed sells.

He was advertising the headers, I contacted him and he told me about the swap stuff, made a killer offer then packed up the fam and laid the ears back.

On to pics, worked on the front brakes but got no where. Drivers caliper frozen, wrong seals, etc.

Drivers outer race, didn't care to check inner, knew it needed to be replaced, besides the rotor being trash



File 13, trying to keep China away from this build, although all the bulbs I just got from Napa have it proudly stamped on it.



Rotor was cocked so far it rested on the washer, deforming it and rolling the edge over



Drivers spindle, not best of shape but useable



Pass spindle, looks like race was cut off or chiseled off in the past, same shape as driver side



How it sits. Removed as much crap from shield and caliper, have at least 1/8" covering on floor. You can see how black the grease was in the old rotor, it was liquid nasty.



Trans and engine mounts minus billet plates



Test fit with the broken rim, these might actually fit 2002 Camaro SS Rims, 17x9, think I'll need 1" spacers to run them.

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Re: 1964 4 door Malibu - LQ4/T56 build

Driver's side before and after, didn't go all out, not really concerned with looks at this point, just wanted the major chunks off





trans pan was leaking, figure cheap filter/gasket change. Now I'm wondering if this thing has 2nd gear



cleaned up



filter is nothing but screen/mesh



Buttoned up



This brake line had me laughing my ass off. Only thing I can come up with is no flaring tool so they did what they could w/ the extra length. All the bleeders are mangled w/ visegrip marks.



driver's pipe is seriously hitting the rear lower control arm



Found out the exhaust is 2" pipe, crimp bent, reason the 305 sounds like a 12:1 350..

Buddy and I had bets on this being the horn but I think it's the wipers, still trying to track the wiring down, it goes down to the headlights, taps into factory harness, then goes back to behind the booster and taps into a different harness. f'ed up. bare wire twisted all over.



I'm about numb to things like this now. shoestring on the shifter linkage.

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Going crazy. A.d.d. has fully got me. Start cleaning the garage, pick up a box with new parts, next thing you know there's door handles on the car, dash is blown apart, and I'm buffing plastic. Wth?

How many of you really wanted to do this with your headlights?



Wet sanded most of the lighter scratches and over spray off the lenses and cleaned out the gauges.





Also made a trip down to ATL, had a good wrenchathon with my racing cohort, got my rear glass from Picklington's in Charlotte, and picked up a great deal on a T56! Think I paid a little too much for the glass, but not that many people stocked rear 4 door setups. It's a beautiful piece though!

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This will be a fun build to watch!
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post #10 of 394 (permalink) Old Mar 1st, 17, 11:17 AM Thread Starter
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This will be a fun build to watch!
Thanks man, I'll try to keep it entertaining! Doing some more thread catch up:

Made a Napa run, replaced all the bulbs in the dash, and cleaned all the ground connections. Nice results, will have to pick up some orange needle paint to refresh the gauges.

This is damn sexy.



I'm not really surprised that all 4, yes 4, headlights were blown. Checked connections, wiring, voltage, and grounds. All 4..

Replaced the bulbs, ditched the eyebrows, and noticed I had parking lights until I turned the headlights on then the front parking lights went out.



Did some googling, and found it's a 64-67 "feature". 68 lights stay on. Moved the front parking lights wire to an unused slot mimicking 68 wiring on the headlight harness following internet and now they stay on.



The reverse light switch is not working, wired in a cheap light up duck bill switch under the dash. It'll stay till the drivetrain is swapped as it's not worth investing. It's ready to come off jack stands and go down the road.
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Getting real round here! Bellhousing came in, only thing lacking is bolts to keep it all together!



Blub blub tick blub tick bulb. Pass manifold has a leaky heat riser valve that seals up once it's warmed up. 20hp lid flip FTW!

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dat ass! Driver's license plate light needs a new receptacle. The spring that pushes the pin into the bulb center conductor is rusted out. I love the lenses though, they're little ufo shaped, thick, glass domes. Little rubbing compound had them looking brand new.



mangled lock with 1/8" drill to pop it out and get new ignition lock installed, gone in 60 minutes.



Not looking forward to figuring out what I got, what I need, cleaning, straightening, installing, etc.



Test fit the SS rim on the rear. Initial thought, 1 - 1.5" spacer may work. Might require BFH assistance, but I may actually be able to run them. Might be necessary to knock down the tire size to 255, really don't want to go that route though.



these studs kill me. that's the length vs a blue butt connector. Tried installing the rest of the new lug nuts I purchased but the threads are so mangled half wouldn't even start. I just put the old ones back on for now, they dragged so bad going on.

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Awesome night!! Maiden voyage done, instead of quenching the fires it's just stoked them! Car drives decent, powerglide works, I was like a little kid driving a go cart for the first time. Permagrin.

Finally pulled the door panels out, they're complete trash. $350.. That's down the road.



Never got a pic of the finished brakes. Feel bad that I pounded this new cap in, was a really tight fit, ended up v'ing the lip so it would compress and fit, still seals like it's supposed to. And the brakes work really, REALLY well. Unbolted seat, no seat belts, and those brakes led to a 3 stooge scene starring me.



Both headlight and wiper switch looked like this, completely nasty. Wd40 and 000 steel wool worked wonders.





Installed



Car came with a new bezel, waiting to install it. Got to get through theft inspection, title, then there'll be fab work on the trans tunnel and floorboards, then it'll get some love.
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Measured the cross member clearance, enough to keep squirrels running for their lives.



Pulled the interior and had to evict the previous tenants. Palmetto bugs.. still smacking at errant shifts in clothes and itching everything.



Finally got the trunk cleaned out, doesn't look too bad, think there's some rust under the coating. Floorboards need to be replaced, they're pretty bad. Guy put that deadener right over holes.



Some assembly required..



Completely vacuumed up all the interior, blew out every bit of it, under the dash, cracks, etc. Pretty funny cleaning the top of the dash off and watching dust blow across the hood, PO botched butyl tape install. Smh. Steel wooled the windows then this happened.



Had my phone propped up on the dash, faster I went it would start pinching the phone and changing the volume. Lost all gears in first slow down. Pulled over and everything checked out. Thought, replacing the motor, replacing the trans, either way it'll be on a trailer.. Put it in drive and said f it, winged the motor. Bam! Don't know if the tires or belts squealed more! Haven't had a problem since. Got some gas, stopped by parents, coming home had an IDIOT in a BMW pull out in front of me, at first locked it down, slid a tad, then was able to get a hold of it and gather it up. Even the person behind me was blowing their horn at the idiot. Fixing the horn is moving up on the list..
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Alright, rockin a new seat cover and ran around Greensboro this morning, even blubbed it's way through a DD drive thru for some coffee. Took it for theft/license inspection, hopefully will have a title in 3 weeks and no rollbacks show up in the driveway. Still rolling with no rear window, great breeze!

This thing looks huge in the garage. Lol, she didn't say that either.

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