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post #571 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 27th, 19, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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Progress continues.....

I forgot to mention I made up a new piece of throttle linkage on Saturday from a couple of heim joints and some rod. He had been having trouble with his throttle sticking at WOT and this seems to have cured it. That was part of the reason we were trying to change the motor mounts. Also because they're old and soft.

He got some new starter wires made up of 0 gauge on Monday, got them installed and that seems to have taken care of his hot start problem. Time will tell. It's definitely better.

I also got his new tires mounted for him before work that morning. They should be good and sticky for the new season.

He ordered a new water pump and fan clutch the other day, but there was a snafu so it was delayed. Hopefully that comes in before too long.

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post #572 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 30th, 19, 9:12 PM Thread Starter
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His water pump and fan clutch arrived yesterday, and by the time I got home from work he had the new pump painted and installed.



This morning he finished it up and ran it to test the cooling system.



After running for about 15 mins it was still at a steady 170 or so. Previously it would have over heated long before. Flowkooler water pump and Hayden 2747 for the win!

Unfortunately we discovered it's leaking where the pump mounts to the block, so it's all going to have to come back off and get sealed better.

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post #573 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 31st, 19, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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New stickies mounted and ready to go!

Now we're just waiting on the upper control arm bolts to arrive. There was a report of shipping damage, so they are held up.

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post #574 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 31st, 19, 1:26 PM
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More of the working-on-the-car 1-2 dance: one step forward and 2 steps back. Still, progress is being made. Thanks again for the updates, I enjoy every one no matter how minor!
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post #575 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 31st, 19, 6:59 PM
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Getting a shroud to cover more of that fan would probably help a lot in the cooling.

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post #576 of 586 (permalink) Old Mar 31st, 19, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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Getting a shroud to cover more of that fan would probably help a lot in the cooling.
He put a stock replacement 65 shroud on in December, it's hard to see in the above pic. I think a 66-67 shroud would likely be more effective, but at this time, it seems to be running cool. Once the suspension bolts come in he intends to daily it for a while to verify.

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post #577 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 12th, 19, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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Last weekend we were crawling around under the back of his car trying to find the reason why his tires showed evidence of rubbing on the outer right hand fender when sitting still, there is over an inch of room with his street tires on. Finally we found a damaged upper control arm, so a set of UMI uppers were ordered, and arrived mid week.



I came home today to find him on his back in the driveway, with little brother running the floor jack for him to get them changed out.



And this is the carnage, old and new.



He had also stolen an upper control arm bolt out of my car (with my permission) only to find his new ones had come in the mail today.

There will be more tomorrow, first race of the season is tomorrow night of the weather holds.

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post #578 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 13th, 19, 12:51 AM
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Great find there! Good luck hope it tracks straight now!
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post #579 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 19, 9:30 AM
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He put a stock replacement 65 shroud on in December, it's hard to see in the above pic. I think a 66-67 shroud would likely be more effective, but at this time, it seems to be running cool. Once the suspension bolts come in he intends to daily it for a while to verify.

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Devin,

What I have done before to extend the stock 65 shroud is to get some black plastic "landscape edging" similar to this:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-2...-Roll/50092428

Wrap the edging around the shroud to make a complete circle. Attach with small self tapping screws and you have a deeper shroud for cheap. I have one that was done at least ten years ago and it is still in good condition.

Keep up the good work.

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post #580 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 19, 11:57 AM Thread Starter
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Last night did not go as well as we had hoped. No problems getting the car ready, but he spun bad on the first pass and the car wouldn't idle when he came back to the pits. Fiddled with it a bit and got that working again, second pass I think he left in 3rd gear. The shifter is still janky after all this time. Then the starter crapped out and it wouldn't idle again. We called it a night and put the street tires and header caps back on, tried to push start it but it just locked the tires, ended up having him pull it with our Suburban, me in his car, get it up to a few mph, dump the clutch, wide open throttle to get it to start, then clutch in and brake without running into the Sub. I stayed in the driver's seat to keep it running while he loaded the last few things to head home. He asked me to drive it to have better luck keeping it alive. About half way home it had been running at a nice 170, then the temp started to climb, and didn't stop. Finally it got to where I had to shut it down and coast to the side of the road about 4 miles from home. Called for a tow and waited 2.5 hours.

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Last night did not go as well as we had hoped. […] coast to the side of the road about 4 miles from home. Called for a tow and waited 2.5 hours.
Oh man, that makes for a rough night. Sounds like a couple of different issues raised their ugly heads at the same time. Darned Murphy’s Law is always in effect. I’m sure it will get figured out.

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post #582 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 19, 1:03 PM
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Oh man, that makes for a rough night. Sounds like a couple of different issues raised their ugly heads at the same time. Darned Murphy’s Law is always in effect. I’m sure it will get figured out.

I dunno, even with the break downs, it sure sounds like a fun night to me.
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post #583 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 15th, 19, 1:26 PM
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How hot did the engine get before? Maybe it has a head gasket on the way out? Hope you guys get it figured out.
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post #584 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 19th, 19, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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When I got home today he had the front end in the air and the fluids drained. Oil is definitely darker, but no signs of coolant. Plugs are similar on all cylinders, some fuel residue, but none of them looked steam cleaned. I suggested he stick a large screwdriver in the lower water pump outlet to stop the impeller and turn the fan, it turned freely. I hope we found our culprit. We'll know more for sure when he has time to pull it off.

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post #585 of 586 (permalink) Old Apr 19th, 19, 6:45 PM
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After being a mechanic for 50 years I never heard of that to check if the impeller is connected to the fan. I guess an old dog (me) can learn a new trick!
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