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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old Jul 3rd, 17, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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496 and having Eric or Vortecpro do their magic on those heads + custom cam and high compression, that's where my vote goes. Ahh ain't it great spending other peoples money !
I've been looking at options. I didn't know if Eric or Mark would work on iron heads. Doesn't hurt to ask.

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Unfortunately there wasn't much left of the sb...heads and intake and lifters were about it. So with the sb rebuild is gonna be a block, rotating assembly and cam.
So your saying you have more BBC stuff in the deal you got. Than what you have left?

I would then call Eric and see if you can sell the heads to him or someone else and off set cost.

You are going to need to swap out the front springs in your car now if you go BBC.

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post #33 of 41 (permalink) Old Jul 3rd, 17, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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So your saying you have more BBC stuff in the deal you got. Than what you have left?

I would then call Eric and see if you can sell the heads to him or someone else and off set cost.

You are going to need to swap out the front springs in your car now if you go BBC.
Yeah I would need to change some stuff to do the swap for sure.

The builder is putting a short block together for me to get thru the summer. It's another 383, 11:1 solid roller forged bottom end with my edelbrock rpm heads and intake. It's a mismatched mess, but who knows, might run good So there is time to do decide what to do. My block was cracked in three cylinders, bent cam and 8 valves, broke a rod, trashed the oil pan etc...

Initial plan and what will still most likely happen is the SHP block 415-421 sb with the updated profiler heads, more compression, e85 with some nitrous for fun.

This bbc will most likely end up in something much lighter. But I may change my mind....got a heck of a deal on the bbc stuff. Like Mark said, could just build a mild 427 with the parts I have for cheap and get a cool cruiser goin.

Still weighing out the options.

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post #34 of 41 (permalink) Old Jul 5th, 17, 1:55 PM
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Re: 454 with 366 crank?

I did not notice what year block if it was mentioned but is it 2 piece main seal block to match that crank??
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post #35 of 41 (permalink) Old Jul 5th, 17, 2:46 PM Thread Starter
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I did not notice what year block if it was mentioned but is it 2 piece main seal block to match that crank??
Not sure on the year, but its a 289 block 2 pc seal. Crank and heads were from a grain truck the neighbor said.

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post #36 of 41 (permalink) Old Jul 6th, 17, 10:43 PM Thread Starter
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Re: 454 with 366 crank?

Been checking around on getting the heads done. Eric doesn't do iron heads anymore. Found one place nearby that can Cnc port them. It's 750 a set. I have not talked to them yet to see what the out the door ready to install price would be. The heads I have are probably not worth doing. They are 133 closed chamber truck heads.

Been reading a lot of old threads on bbc builds. Still undecided on what to do with it. I'm liking the 427 build. Haven't really found what hp difference there would be between the 427 or 496. Plenty of time to decide on anything.

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Been checking around on getting the heads done. Eric doesn't do iron heads anymore. Found one place nearby that can Cnc port them. It's 750 a set. I have not talked to them yet to see what the out the door ready to install price would be. The heads I have are probably not worth doing. They are 133 closed chamber truck heads.

Been reading a lot of old threads on bbc builds. Still undecided on what to do with it. I'm liking the 427 build. Haven't really found what hp difference there would be between the 427 or 496. Plenty of time to decide on anything.
Well for HP difference if you are making 1 HP per cube (which would be like a 427" making 427 HP... not hard to do in todays world) the difference in HP between the 427" and the 496" would be around 70 Hp.....
If you are making more but moderate Street HP use 1.2 HP per Cube.... and that 70 HP diff becomes about 80 or so HP difference. So safe estimation would be 50-80 HP difference depending on your build level of street Performance.
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Been checking around on getting the heads done. Eric doesn't do iron heads anymore. Found one place nearby that can Cnc port them. It's 750 a set. I have not talked to them yet to see what the out the door ready to install price would be. The heads I have are probably not worth doing. They are 133 closed chamber truck heads.

Been reading a lot of old threads on bbc builds. Still undecided on what to do with it. I'm liking the 427 build. Haven't really found what hp difference there would be between the 427 or 496. Plenty of time to decide on anything.

Time for an update. Will you have some kind of car on the road soon?

Is the T&T still happening at MCIR Friday? My car is still running and wants to go fast!
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Time for an update. Will you have some kind of car on the road soon?

Is the T&T still happening at MCIR Friday? My car is still running and wants to go fast!
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Update is.....not much. Got a text earlier that the engine would be ready and car would be able to make Friday's TNT. The mud truck 383 bastard child will be what's in it...decent bottom end with a puny top end, should be interesting.

Maybe we should put that ported Motown single plane on the rpm heads...

As for Friday...they are under a flood watch till Wednesday...with all this rain, if my car is done they will be flooded. If it doesn't get done, you will get to do some racing.

I will let you know when I hear if they will be open or not. Would be cool to race you.
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As for Friday...they are under a flood watch till Wednesday...with all this rain, if my car is done they will be flooded. If it doesn't get done, you will get to do some racing.

I will let you know when I hear if they will be open or not. Would be cool to race you.
We got a lot of rain up here, but you guys really got hammered down there! At least the track will be clean!

Now take it easy on me George...I'm a Track Virgin! Remember...If you don't have your car ready, I win; so you'd better be ready by Friday!
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We got a lot of rain up here, but you guys really got hammered down there! At least the track will be clean!

Now take it easy on me George...I'm a Track Virgin! Remember...If you don't have your car ready, I win; so you'd better be ready by Friday!
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I might get you off the line, all over after that. Should be a cool video though!
Although, with some nitrous who knows....


I think we got 3" of rain last nite....nice light show as well. Not sure what they got in Larue. We might get lucky and it will dry out.

Either way if they are open, will come down and at least watch you run.

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