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View Poll Results: What brand do you prefer?
American Racing Headers 3 4.62%
JBA 1 1.54%
Kooks 7 10.77%
Patriot 1 1.54%
Sanderson 4 6.15%
None of the above 49 75.38%
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post #1 of 62 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 12, 3:00 AM Thread Starter
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Question High end Header Preference

I wanted to hear some experience any of you may have had with the higher end header companies. Not the el cheapo off brand stuff or the $100 headers, but the high end stuff. $750 and up. Brands like JBA, Patriot, American Racing, Kooks, etc.

What brand do you prefer?
Why?
What application did you fit them to?
Would you buy that brand again for another project?
Have you installed/owned/used any other brand as a personal comparison?
Have you dyno'ed your project and know what the headers were worth in hp gain?


Looking for some market research for my own use. Full disclosure - I am closely tied to one of these brands and want to know why folks have chosen what they run.

Thanks in advance! Looking forward to reading opinions!

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post #2 of 62 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 12, 4:47 AM
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Re: High end Header Preference

My only high end headers have been from Dan Lemons, 2 1/4 BBC, before that it was shelf Hookers. Dan is personable,knowledgeable,he spends time with you, and has a good product. IMHO

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post #4 of 62 (permalink) Old Dec 22nd, 12, 11:02 AM
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Lemons! Fit like a glove, primary tubes go on one tube at a time and then the collector ties them together. I'd recommend 2 1/8" for most 600-700 h.p. engines.
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Lemons, by a longshot! Dan was very helpful helping me on more than one project. New headers on a 1970, 496ci, not one conflict with any component. Got frustrated with Hooker (Holley) when there best advice was: Your gonna have a hard time, Good Luck! - wow! Talk about lack of customer service. Just read a previouse post where hooker instructions suggest use of a hammer to modify. Give me a break! I have about 5 sets of bbc headers hangin on the wall now, so far the Lemon product has my confidence, like I said, "It's not even a close choice". Have a set of Doug's I will try soon on another car soon, will advise.
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Another vote for Lemons. Great people to deal with, excellent product. Been to the shop before and they treated me and my son real nice. My car is a one off type of deal and they nailed it perfectly. I couldn't be happier.

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Danny Lemons all day long.

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Stahl ...2" primaries 3"collectors ......... slip fit collectors ....... They spend alot of time with you to ensure you have the header sizing that works for your engine and use

66 BBC Chevelle ........ Dyno 'd yes tried different collector sizing and design and used dyno headers as base .......... Stahl made best torque by alot and best HP at peak rpm

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Lemons!!

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Another thumbs up for Lemon's. Been on and off my car for 6 years now. Still look and function great. I did re-coat the primary's a couple years ago. Very happy customer here.
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Re: High end Header Preference

one of my biggest mistakes was not using Lemmons

i used hooker 2455 road plows

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Lemons get my vote!

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Re: High end Header Preference

I gotta get some new headers sooner than later. Sure would like to see some installed pics of them fancy new American Racing headers installed..web write-up talks big, but when you get that expensive (website listed price @ 1195 for 2x3.5) they better fit and perform big, too. Web site also says they are stainless, which could be a plus?
I had stainless Borlas when i had a S/C dragster in the late 90s..I loved them, they never got header grunge disease, but they got HOT, would stainless headers in a tight chevelle BBC engine bay be any hotter than regular steel?

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post #15 of 62 (permalink) Old Dec 23rd, 12, 8:34 PM Thread Starter
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Re: High end Header Preference

I appreciate the responses. I find it interesting that performance and dyno results were not mentioned in most replies. Is it that few people spend the additional cost to dyno their projects, dont have a dyno service nearby, or is actual performance not as important?

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