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The gears on their pro billet distributors are the quality ok? Seen lots of post that they are bad but never seen a failed gear or have one failed my self.
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The gears on their pro billet distributors are the quality ok? Seen lots of post that they are bad but never seen a failed gear or have one failed my self.
No. They have been made in China since 2014. Morel made them for MSD prior to that for 35 years.

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Why is it we never have time or money to do it the right way in the beginning but we always have time and money to do it over again?
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No. They have been made in China since 2014. Morel made them for MSD prior to that for 35 years.

Are you sure? I have a month old mail from Tommy Nicholson at holley(their owner) that all their gears are melonized and made in Us?


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Yes all of our gears are Melonized and made in the US.


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And says made in Usa on jegs page?
https://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/8531/10002/-1
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Are you sure? I have a month old mail from Tommy Nicholson at holley(their owner) that all their gears are melonized and made in Us?


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Is the gear on the 8361 distributor melonized?
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Only gears made in the USA are the low volume numbers. Very low % of them are USA made.

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Only gears made in the USA are the low volume numbers. Very low % of them are USA made.
? But his answer says all gears made in usa for their 8361 distributors?

Maybe theres another source for Us made gears than Morel?or Do you know the gears they use are chinese?
Maybe they hone them to fit the axles and that makes them mostly made in Us?
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? But his answer says all gears made in usa for their 8361 distributors?

Maybe theres another source for Us made gears than Morel?or Do you know the gears they use are chinese?
Maybe they hone them to fit the axles and that makes them mostly made in Us?
The bronze gears are definitely not a quality gear, I don't care where thy're made. Heard of too many failures since they switched. These days I automatically replace any bronze gear on any new MSD distributor. Don't even give it a second thought. As far as the iron or steel gears, I just assume the same thing. It's not something to chance, and with MSD's model of going cheaper and cheaper, it just stands to reason.

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I have 2 of these. MSD says iron gear. I do know MSD has the most don’t GAS customer service ever .
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I bought the msd pro billet with slip collar and no internal advance to ise with the 6530 3-4 years ago. It came with the bronze gear. I bought a replacement gear from Chris for it...never got around to changing it. Pulled the distributor out a couple months ago, gear still looked ok. Its seen alot of passes in three years.

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I just use Cams with pressed on gears. No worries about dist gears.

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The bronze gears are definitely not a quality gear, I don't care where thy're made. Heard of too many failures since they switched. These days I automatically replace any bronze gear on any new MSD distributor. Don't even give it a second thought. As far as the iron or steel gears, I just assume the same thing. It's not something to chance, and with MSD's model of going cheaper and cheaper, it just stands to reason.

Heard faillures? Seen them yourself?

Ive had morel lifters fail but dont just replace all of them because of that?

Two sets of their cheap mexico rebranded Eaton, one set had the axle for the wheel get loose caught it before any damage Heard the have clips holdingbolag the axle just like the more expensive morels now, the second was loud as hell and several collapsed replaced both sets with gaterman, everything fine and quiet since that. Still has my two sets of 4603 and they work very good. Maybe different quality levels to compete with low cost parts? Just like msd has different priced components?

Still wonder If anyone know If the msd gear that comes Std on a 8361 distributor is Us or chinese? Msd says us, jegs says Us and straub says china?

Still want to hear of faillures first hand not rumors.
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Heard faillures? Seen them yourself?

Ive had morel lifters fail but dont just replace all of them because of that?

Two sets of their cheap mexico rebranded Eaton, one set had the axle for the wheel get loose caught it before any damage Heard the have clips holdingbolag the axle just like the more expensive morels now, the second was loud as hell and several collapsed replaced both sets with gaterman, everything fine and quiet since that. Still has my two sets of 4603 and they work very good. Maybe different quality levels to compete with low cost parts? Just like msd has different priced components?

Still wonder If anyone know If the msd gear that comes Std on a 8361 distributor is Us or chinese? Msd says us, jegs says Us and straub says china?

Still want to hear of faillures first hand not rumors.
Meh, you're right. I made it up. So did Chris.
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I just use Cams with pressed on gears. No worries about dist gears.
Me too Dan. 500 miles on this Comp cam with a pressed on iron gear. Jegs claimed that their small cap HEI uses a melonized gear, too. (I really doubt that it was, but the gear looked fine.) Comp wanted to charge me MORE than I paid for the cam for replacement. A new Bullet cam and a GM melonized gear from Mike Lewis fixed the issue.
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?????????????

One member claims to have an irrefutable manufacturer statement regarding the part in question.

Another member posted a link to a vendor site that appears to support the alleged manufacturer's statement.

Two other members dispute the above but show no supporting evidence.


The manufacturer's statement is not irrefutable.
The statement is false right form the beginning;

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Yes all of our gears are Melonized and made in the US.
Bronze gears are not Melonized.
If the person making that statement didn't know enough to differentiate and make a more clear statement, what else does he not know?

If the two other members you're referring to are Chris and myself, Chris is a manufacturer. We both work in this industry and are in constant contact with hundreds of other manufacturers and thousands of customers on a daily basis. We don't document every single case we see or hear regarding things like this. We do, however, try to pass along the best, most useful information we can. We try to protect our customer base and in doing so, the industry as a whole. Is it good for business? You bet. Is that our "agenda"? No sir. It's good for everyone. What people choose to do with the information is up to them.

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