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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Oct 13th, 19, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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I'm getting ready to buy these parts has anyone used or had problems with any of this? I know the pan will work via Mr 4 Speed and getting a timing set from Straub Tech.
SUM-G6301W alum timing cover & gaskets, not sure I want alum?
SUM-G3623 pump pick up
SUM-G3605 pan
Moroso 93153 one pc. pan gasket
Melling M-77HV pump
Melling IS-77 HD driveshaft
ARP 200-1501 timing cover bolts
Canton 22-310 oil pan stud kit
ARP 230-7003 pump stud kit
SUM-164700 adj. timing pointer
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If you aren’t sure about the aluminum timing cover check out what Milodon has to offer, their Non-chrome covers used to be really good quality and probably still are.

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Re: 489 Short block

What cam? If retro fit roller a alu cover and a Comp nylon button is a good match.

In you dont run bearing clearances that are in the loose side go with a regular m77 pump and blue spring. Or a Melling select 10774 but they cost a bit more.

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I have a step nose gen VI lunatic roller cam and retaining plate, Chris said his roll master timing set fits this cam and NoV block with stock cover I just didn't see many good reviews on after market stock type covers but may go with a Milidon like Steve sugested


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I have a step nose gen VI lunatic roller cam and retaining plate, Chris said his roll master timing set fits this cam and NoV block with stock cover I just didn't see many good reviews on after market stock type covers but may go with a Milidon like Steve sugested
I used several different cheap alu covers and so far they have all worked.
But with that cam setup a oem cover will work just as good.
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I'm going to be finishing the short block assembly this weekend, I've done a search here that a 1 pc pan gasket on a mk IV block is best but does that mean the crank had to have a certain seal? I had a pro shop do the rotating ass. and I can ask him what he used if needed?


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but does that mean the crank had to have a certain seal?

No, the oil pan gasket has nothing to do with the rear main seal
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Nothing wrong with a stock cover for what you are doing.
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I didn't change my summit "cart" so alum is on it's way, the Rollmaster timing set has a Torrington bearing to ride against the retainer plate does anything need to be added to the back of the roller cam where it rides against the plug in the block? never used a roller cam but guessing it goes in like a FT, the Howards Max Effort lifters are on back order until 11/26 still need to order my heads from Mike Lewis as soon as my wallet lets me


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I didn't change my summit "cart" so alum is on it's way, the Rollmaster timing set has a Torrington bearing to ride against the retainer plate does anything need to be added to the back of the roller cam where it rides against the plug in the block? never used a roller cam but guessing it goes in like a FT, the Howards Max Effort lifters are on back order until 11/26 still need to order my heads from Mike Lewis as soon as my wallet lets me
No need for anyting at the back of the cam.

Did you get your stroker from Wolfie too ? Can't wait to get my 489 going.

What heads are you ordering ?

Mine will be a "super sleeper" with hi-rise factory cast iron intake and 800 qjet.
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Yes I got mine from Mike great guy to do business with , I bought the autotec 22cc pistons, manley H beams, scat 4.25" crank and soon ordering brodix RR 294 R port 115 cc w/cnc option, I already have an eddy rpm AG intake & 850 holley for it, bought a lunati hyd. roller 282/290 .600 lift 110 lsa that I think I'll be able to run a/c with, gets HOT down here lol


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I didn't change my summit "cart" so alum is on it's way, the Rollmaster timing set has a Torrington bearing to ride against the retainer plate does anything need to be added to the back of the roller cam where it rides against the plug in the block? never used a roller cam but guessing it goes in like a FT, the Howards Max Effort lifters are on back order until 11/26 still need to order my heads from Mike Lewis as soon as my wallet lets me
Same lifters as the howards if you want them faster.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/t...make/chevrolet

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I already paid for the Howard's lifters and don't mind waiting but kind of itching to get this together, wallets saying "WAIT WAIT!!!" LOL


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