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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 22nd, 19, 1:53 PM Thread Starter
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SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Have a single 16" spal and DeWitts BB radiator..Would like to keep this around 180 avg
At some point Ill be making a product similar to the "Big Mount" air damn as I had on some C4s. It will cool it quicker at speed so it runs less...want to run it this summer and not worry about it but dont know much about wiring or controllers. Believe this one has a wire off the batt, goes to a relay, to a fan switch then the fan. Alt is a denso 80/120 with a larger gauge wire and grounded to the block.

-Is there a simple controller I can use for this fan

OR

Is there a dual fan setup they make? Dont like the temp fluctiation. Using their 200 on/185 switch as the 185 on 165 off runs all the time.


Or is there an OEM fan setup that fits?

Id need some wiring instructions, not real understanding of all that. Now I have the fan switch in the intake, sent to a relay they supplied wiht the fan.

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

What temp do you want to be at ? What thermostat are you running ?

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

160 Milodon, 180 tops....honestly like it a few deg cooler but thats not realistic. At cruise speed it wants to settle around 180.....down the road Ill install an oil cooler which ought to help. But not now
Dont want summer temps to hold me back. It gains heat quick once the fan is shut off and Im sitting at lights or-

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Dual fans is a good approach...OEM mechanical fan with clutch and a helper electric fan inside the shroud set to turn on as needed

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

I haven't been following your other posts so please excuse this question. How much horsepower do you think the engine is making ?

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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 22nd, 19, 3:42 PM Thread Starter
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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Id have to fool with the brackets so I have some WP snout sticking out.....I do have a flexalite nylon flex that I loved..but yrs ago I had an electric shop do some work on this and he got the bright idea beers later to hack the whole system up?? So for now stuck with electric otherwise I think your idea is great.

Bill I have no idea on power....more than 5 less than 6 Im guessing

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Alt is 80/120, I heard the controllers with the probe are unreliable?

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

This is what I have on my car and have used for 2+ years with absolutely no issues. Works very well, looks kinda neat or you could pretty easily hide it if you wanted. Around $27 from Amazon. I wired mine to trigger a 40A relay on my electric fan..used to forget to turn off the fan between rounds, now I don't have to worry about it at all.
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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Using this w/2 Spal fans. Works like a champ.

https://www.proformparts.com/product...n-probe-sensor

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Iforgot, that's an interesting product. With multiple outputs, it can support low & high speed.
https://www.ink-bird.com/products-PI...er-itc106.html

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

cuisinartvette, I suggest you find a radiator shroud the covers the entire radiator and has two high capacity fans. At least 3,000 CFM each.

The more an electric fan moves in CFM, the more current it will draw. Some fans run over 20 amps each.

The positive and negatives should come directly from the battery, fuses in the positives. Each fan needs it's own relay.

Using the above controller, you can have one fan on at say 190 degrees and the second fan come on if the temps keeps rising to say 210.

Or, you can do a low speed/high speed fan setup with a series/parallel relay set, it takes three relays. In low, both fans run at low speed and in high, they kick up to full speed. Dual low speed fans are quieter that one at full speed.

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Thanks Paul I have some reading to do!

Strokerboat that one in your link..instructions say you can change when it turns on what about when it cuts off?
(Obviously I know nothing about electrical).

Other than the wire from the alternator what upgrades would need to be done to handle higher amp stuff? New M and H harness.

What dimensions are the dual spal setups? Not saying ILl buy them just looking into different options. I know they will do the job but like the idea of an OEM type also
The one in an old E430 we have (duals) move a rediculous amount of air..love a bulletproof system.

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Spal in my experience makes the best fans available. You'd have to check their website. I have my fans set to come on at 160* but I don't recall the shut down temp or if it is even something which can or can't be set. I don't drive my car on the street anymore. Too many 3rd world drivers here. The controller has an over ride which you can set "on" temp with. I just let mine run. Always can call tech at ProForm and pick their brains if interested.

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Have a SPAL Dual Efan/Shroud setup/system on my 67's stock type/size DF Rad

When I bought the Rad from Don at Alumitech I had him put Brackets on it for this particular Efan/Shroud Unit
that I already had/bought which came with all the Wiring / Relays / etc.
I wired it up myself based on the great Instructions included
I setup 1 Efan to come on at 170* based on the Temp Unit put into the Intake at/just under the Thermostat
the 2 Efan I wired to a Toggle Switch under my Dash so I can flip it ON if needed
each Efan has it's own Relay

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It keeps my 468 ci running at 180* or less on the Hwy and in City Traffic
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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

Thanks all got some calls to make. 180 is the hottest I want this getting. This Dewitts looks identical did they take them over?
Need to learn more about wiring looks like, cant afford to be ignorant. lol
Dont care about noise just function.

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Re: SPal fan conroller, or dual/oem upgrade?

I believe Don use to work for Dewitts but he started his own business selling the same type of well made Rads

Don's Dad got sick and Don had to close down for awhile

Don was back selling them again, try a Search on here for "Alumitech" and you might be able to reach out to him

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