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post #121 of 149 (permalink) Old Nov 8th, 17, 4:35 PM
 
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You're killing me, Joe. LOL You too, Gene.
4.500 bore
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427 with a .250" over bore. Put that in a close ratio 6 speed.

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Hey Straub, that will be the last iteration of a high revving rat in my old junk. Nice lil' 505!

Been trying to blow up my old L88 for twenty years now though........ damn thing wont BLOW....!
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Hey Straub, that will be the last iteration of a high revving rat in my old junk. Nice lil' 505!

Been trying to blow up my old L88 for twenty years now though........ damn thing wont BLOW....!
I tried to get Bill Waters to try one. I'd love to do a 4.6 x 3.75 x 6.700. Put a raised runner on it around around 3" of MCSA and let it eat at 7500 plus.
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Chris, I **LOVE** the way you think sir!
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post #125 of 149 (permalink) Old Nov 9th, 17, 8:44 AM
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Gene, the 4.6 X 3.75 stroke BBc is nothing new or secret. It is a very well proven and well thought out old combo from the '80's that still being refined today. That's nothing new in the performance racing era.

These are old NHRA Pro Stock 500" combo's, big bore short stroke that were the norm till the 4.9 and bigger B/S blocks we used. 4.625 is usually about a big a bore you'd go in the standard 4.84 B/S blocks. Nick Scavo used this combo in his '65 Impala. We've used it plenty of times with very good results. NSCA NPS car, another NSCA Record setting Super Modified car, Current OSCA EZ Street class champion and the pump gas '68 Nova. But some of these cars DID use smaller bore, but were the same principals.

The 4.6 X 3.75 deal seems to be the ticket to run fast, especially if you're on small tires or "traction limited" type cars.
LOL...yeah, Gene. What the heck. Agreeing with, or liking something Straub says is going to get you in trouble with Mr Pro Stock here... you should know better. Hope you learned your lesson.

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The 'ole 430 CID build that the Grump ran back in the day always had my attention
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post #127 of 149 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 17, 6:26 AM
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The 'ole 430 CID build that the Grump ran back in the day always had my attention
mr 4 speed, I had to research and then watch videos of the car, since it has so much character/history, thanks!

I will never experience the speeds of this type of car, but it sure if fun to watch them GO....

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post #128 of 149 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 17, 7:51 AM
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Scott, give it a rest!!!! I wasn't attacking your BOSS, I was merely stating how the 498 "ish" combos are far from new, but are a very good combo that's been refined for years.
No, you were basically discrediting someone who agreed with him though. No one said these combinations were new. It didn't need pointing out, other than to give yourself the opportunity to do some more bragging.
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And YES, my Crew Chief has been a competitive Pro Stock racer since 1991, racing PS for 26 years. FACTORY FORD SPONSORED when they had the "Glidden" car with Ford Quality care. And You might have worked on MY Pro Stock stiff when you were at Dart. Maskin's lent a big hand to the guys that do my stuff. They used to stay over at Richards house and stayed with Ray Franks (pro filier heads) place as well.
Oh, who gives a flip. More name dropping, John?
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YES I have Pro Stock equipment. YES my crew chief has a current Pro Stock car. Do you have any experience in this field to lend to the conversation???
The conversation has nothing to do with anything Pro Stock but as usual, it's all about you.
Every thread you post in screams "Look at ME look at ME!!!!"
You're like a spoiled four year old who just can't get enough attention.
It gets old, John, very old and it's not impressive.

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This message is hidden because steelcomp is on your ignore list.

Scott maybe you should try it too. Just because you can't keep up don't hate other that have the technology and wherewithal to do it.

John, I have enjoyed some of your stories on what you can do with older stock'ish parts. However, you have only been here a year, and you do seem to have some "LOOK AT ME!" issues as Scott said, or maybe I'm just reading you wrong too. Anyway, I'll help you out with the "hidden message problem" lol...


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Scott, give it a rest!!!! I wasn't attacking your BOSS, I was merely stating how the 498 "ish" combos are far from new, but are a very good combo that's been refined for years.

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No, you were basically discrediting someone who agreed with him though. No one said these combinations were new. Id didn;t need pointing out, other than to give yourself the opportunity to do some more bragging.

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And YES, my Crew Chief has been a competitive Pro Stock racer since 1991, racing PS for 26 years. FACTORY FORD SPONSORED when they had the "Glidden" car with Ford Quality care. And You might have worked on MY Pro Stock stiff when you were at Dart. Maskin's lent a big hand to the guys that do my stuff. They used to stay over at Richards house and stayed with Ray Franks (pro filier heads) place as well.
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YES I have Pro Stock equipment. YES my crew chief has a current Pro Stock car. Do you have any experience in this field to lend to the conversation???
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The conversation has nothing to do with anything Pro Stock but as usual, it's all about you.
Every thread you post in screams "Look at ME look at ME!!!!"
You're like a spoiled four year old who just can't get enough attention.
It gets old, John, very old and it's not impressive.

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Reading thru this thread makes me think about doing the bbc I picked up a couple months ago.....only a set of rods, pistons, intake and cam away.

Been kinda keeping an eye out for some

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Reading thru this thread makes me think about doing the bbc I picked up a couple months ago.....only a set of rods, pistons, intake and cam away.

Been kinda keeping an eye out for some
Don't forget to add accessories,hedders,water pump ,engine mounts, Larger rad, front springs....

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Team Chevelle has a lot of people that are not well educated in the performance field
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And I do not agree with that statement.
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Team Chevelle has a lot of people that are not well educated in the performance field or have the experiences of a more higher Hp car. Thus the rash of lower, (less than 7000RPM BBc) and the hyd rollers. As well, these less informed individuals don't realize that 99% of the time, they can run OEM stuff with the same results, but that doesn't line the pockets of these 2 individuals. [QUOTE]

I hope to hell when talking to your "cabinet" customers you don't belittle them like this. I fore one find this group of guys among the sharpest on the net when it comes to experience with the BBC platform. I for one will never have you wealth that you have obtained while making cabinets, but I am thankful I will never have your attitude towards fellow man.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And I do not agree with that statement.
I agree with you. One of the best bunch of BBC guys on the planet right here.
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Yes you are right, we all have opinions. This group are nice guys, more "street" oriented. Which is fine, that's what they are. But you certainly can not compare the group on here with YB, Insidecomp, Inside top alcohol, Class racer, UMTR or speedtalk etc and many other sites. For a group of hardcore racing is not what this sites about. And therefore many don't have the insight into these forms of racing.

It's not a slam at the site at all. There are some pretty sharp guys here. Wolf place, Mark J, Aukui, Camking, etc. But as a whole, it's more of the 10/11 second type cars that are street/strip and more street. You don't see threads about C/F brakes, Ti suspension, or even Big Chief/Spread port head/sheetmetal intakes. The general knowledge base isn't as deep in performance as the above mentioned sites.
Obviously this just isn't the place for you. You really just don't seem to fit in here John. Obviously not the echelon of people you prefer to deal with. I think you like hanging around here because you feel like a big fish in a little pond but guess what; When it comes to hands on experience and knowledge, you can't hold a candle to even the least experienced here who at least do their own work, build their own engines and have a humble, appreciative attitude toward others who do the same. You need to be around other people like yourself who think their money deserves, no, DEMANDS some sort of respect and notoriety. I don't think you're going to find that here and because of that, I can appreciate your frustration and animosity.
Now go away.
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