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post #1 of 221 (permalink) Old Aug 13th, 15, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

Well, it's a good thing I didn't find a 69 for my restomod project, the 69 was a bit small and the Malibu dimensions are almost identical to the 14 donor.

About to cut the sunroof from the SS and install it in the 70 as the first step. All the real body work will be left for who ever paints it. No finger pointing here. Ordered new front clip, tail panel and trunk lid.

Very next step is to remove the dash and then to remove the top of the Camaro from just above the floor. Both cars will then go to a chassis and suspension specialist who will merge the driveline/suspension, including the trunk floor and strut towers, into the 70.

Here are a couple of pics - the wiring on the wall represents the harness from the footwell back to the taillights, including the curtain airbags and the upper and lower console. As you can tell, just getting started was a lot of work.

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post #2 of 221 (permalink) Old Aug 29th, 15, 4:40 PM Thread Starter
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Dash Pad Mockup

Here's a pic of the Camaro dash pad mocked up. Lots of messing around yet.
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Re: 70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

Very cool. Those SS Camaros run pretty well and a 69 Chevelle is a CRAPTON lighter than that Camaro (my ZL1 is 4340 without me) so once you get past the 14,876 hurdles and you realize your budget is 2/3rds light and the one year project will take 3, you will love it!

Seriously, if you are good at wiring and can fab some fuel lines, it shouldn't be terribly hard to get it done.

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Re: 70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

There are a couple of major hurdles with the project. The main one is the relationship of the firewall to the leading edge of the windshield. Getting the much deeper dash to line up at those two points is going to be a trick - still working that out.

The use of the Camaro dash requires that the firewall from the Camaro be transferred so that the protrusions from the dash can be properly extended into the engine bay - unlike the old days, the dash is a self contained unit that includes the brake master cylinder. The dash weighs in at a whopping 250 lb.

The good news is that the width of the dash leaves 1/2" clearance on both sides.

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Re: 70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

Have a video camera ready for when you tell whoever you find to do the suspension what you want done. I want to see the look on there face when you say you want the Camero suspension in the chevelle. Then if they accept the job I want to see your face when you get the bill. . Good luck if you pull this off my hats off to you.

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Have a video camera ready for when you tell whoever you find to do the suspension what you want done. I want to see the look on there face when you say you want the Camero suspension in the chevelle. Then if they accept the job I want to see your face when you get the bill. . Good luck if you pull this off my hats off to you.
Have already found the right guy and the bill is probably just under 50K?
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Re: 70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

probably??? I hate that word.

Endeavor to persevere... Lone Watie -

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Probably, because it's T&M - no contract. Ballpark is about a 3 month job. The guy is a frame, chassis and suspension specialist.
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Can't wait to see this completed.

Tighten it till it strips and back it off a quarter turn.
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Can't wait to see this completed.
You and me both...

Need to get the dash mockup finished, installed and removed before I bring both cars to him in 6 weeks. He was here and looked at the job, put the Camaro up on the lift, and he wasn't a bit intimidated.

After I get it back, I need to take it to paint for the body removal/restoration and metal work in the interior, or I may do the interior metal work myself. Depends on what the suspension ends up costing.

All new front clip, DII and new bumpers. Hopefully I can transfer the sunroof before the suspension.

Lots to do...

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Just to put this into perspective from the sounds of it when your done you could get a new dodge hellcat chalanger. Just saying been there it's not fun when you think about it after.

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Just to put this into perspective from the sounds of it when your done you could get a new dodge hellcat chalanger. Just saying been there it's not fun when you think about it after.
If you get to be old and have some time and some $ and a desire to create something, fun can be a simple matter of perspective. More than that, how many "7014" Malibu's have you seen, anywhere?
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I can't wait to see the progress. I looked at my ZL1 on a rack the other day and both the front and rear suspension are very modular and both are on thier own subframes, Get the match right and it should be very straight forward.

Any consideration to adding the ZL1/1LE magnetic ride control? Besides the look, the power, and the sound, the ride control is the coolest things on a ZL1. Instant change in ride characteristics.

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I can't wait to see the progress. I looked at my ZL1 on a rack the other day and both the front and rear suspension are very modular and both are on thier own subframes, Get the match right and it should be very straight forward.

Any consideration to adding the ZL1/1LE magnetic ride control? Besides the look, the power, and the sound, the ride control is the coolest things on a ZL1. Instant change in ride characteristics.
There is a video on the Camaro 5 forum of the Camaro being assembled and you are correct about the front and rear suspensions. They are set on a jig and the body is dropped onto them. That's the good and the bad news.

The difficulty in the transition lies in melding the struts to a non-unibody, but I think my guy has it figured out.

In any case, there is the issue of the gas tank (wiring and pump, etc), if I don't incorporated it I have to use modify the existing tank and plum/rewire it. Since the area that is affected is the section under and behind the back seat and since all the audio stuff is there behind the back seat, going to try to use the part of the Camaro body that makes the tank work, including the gas filler door/pipe on the passenger side.

The good news is that the wheelbase on both vehicles is within a 1/4" of each other and the cabin space is also very close.
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Re: 70 Malibu Drastic Restomod - 14 SS Camaro Donor

Forgot, not impressed with the magnetic ride control shocks - have that on my ZR1 and they are leaking and not a warranted item and I don't notice any difference between tour and sport.
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