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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old Sep 9th, 19, 12:05 AM Thread Starter
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Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

Doing some graphics and pinstripe accents on an upcoming paint job. Graphics are narrow sections of engine turned vinyl wrap and stripes will be painted base coat. I want these absolutely buried and the clear flat as water on a plate. I'm thinking 2 coats of clear, wet sand those areas smooth, then a couple more coats then wet sand and buff.
Even if the booth heat is cranked up, I figure at least 24 hours before flattening out the first round of clear and re-spraying the final coats. Would the entire car need to be scuffed before the second round of clear. I would think yes.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old Sep 9th, 19, 11:57 AM
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

How thick is the vinyl? 2 coats may not be enough to keep from breaking through the edge, especially if your first coat is lighter. 3 coats would probably be safer. Any chance of using a water slide decal instead so it's thinner?

Scuffing would be a good idea after 24 hours. You don't need to go crazy with it, a gray scuff pad works fine.
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

I always worry about the graphics to clearcoat chemical reactions where the graphics shrivel up under the paint.

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old Sep 9th, 19, 7:56 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

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How thick is the vinyl? 2 coats may not be enough to keep from breaking through the edge, especially if your first coat is lighter. 3 coats would probably be safer. Any chance of using a water slide decal instead so it's thinner?

Scuffing would be a good idea after 24 hours. You don't need to go crazy with it, a gray scuff pad works fine.
The vinyl is 3 mil. I'm going to prep it with 2000 paper before applying.
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old Oct 2nd, 19, 5:47 PM
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

3 coats, wet sand, 3 more coats and you will be fine. Every Harley ever made that I have seen has vinyl graphics buried under the clear. You should have no issues.

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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old Oct 2nd, 19, 5:59 PM
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

I've done this on several cars in the past and have learned this. You need to put at least 3 coats of clear over the entire surface. The next step is to sand that surface with at least 800 grit paper to even things out. I suggest using the longest block you can find as this will produce the best results. This levels the entire surface quickly and leaves the surface with enough bite for the following clear coats. I usually wait 48 hours to begin sanding the initial clearcoat, but temperature is key here. I then follow up with 3 more coats of clear and depending how well the second round lays down, finish sanding usually starts with 1000,then 1500,2000,2500.It's not custom painting but custom sanding that makes a show car finish
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 19, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Bury graphics and stripes in the clear coat

Thanks for the input, my painter was leaning towards 2 coats of clear on the initial, I will talk him into 3. Good reference to the new Harley's, never considered that, but I did notice a new Indian, had nice retro stripe accents that were likely vinyl drowned in clear.
I chose the engine turned vinyl, reminds me of a 64 Impala SS I used to own.
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