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post #16 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 28th, 17, 10:23 AM
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Moon Beam Brown wants to add another 0.12 a gallon to our gas which is already taxed beyond belief and on average another $50.00 dollars a car to the registration fees.
Most of the voters in this state are brain dead.
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I do agree that most voters in CA are brain dead, however, voters didn't get a say so in the 12 cent a gallon tax / car registration hike. That was shoved down our throat by Brown and his buddies.
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Wondering why they didn't put it on the November ballot a few months ago and save the expense?
They probably wanted to wait and see if pot got legalized, so they could tax that instead.

What gets me is that in Tucson I rarely see traffic enforcement anymore. I see a motorcycle cop with a radar gun every once in awhile, but that's it. All of the photo enforcement intersections were suppose to be dangerous intersections, but I've yet to see any of them being patrolled since the cameras got turned off. Write some tickets and let that pay for the new cars.
I'm also suspicious of taxes for road repair. It seems like there are always raising taxed for road repair, but it never gets done. Maybe their definition of "raising taxes for road repair" means raising taxes so the people in charge of fixing the roads can get a raise, but nothing else gets done.
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As long as they DON'T fix the roads, they have a reason to raise taxes.

They need to keep the roads in poor condition so they can take more.

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What are our wonderful elected officials going to do when there is nothing left to take, take, take?
Become overpaid consultants or lobbists.

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That may be true, Tony but believe me, good old NY is trying their best to not only keep up but maybe even go into the lead!
I HATE the NYS Dep't of Taxation. They've gone out of their way to screw non-resident taxpayers more than any other state in the Country.

They actually make it as difficult as possible for an out-of-state, fully licensed CPA to file NY returns.....so they can charge additional penalties and interest. For non-resident taxpayers do not vote....so they get tax raped.

While the tax rates are a "little" high, NJ actually isn't that bad to deal with any more. And you do get to take a deduction on your NJ return for the high property taxes you pay. But I will say that NJ does treat tax preparers fairly, oddly enough.

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While the tax rates are a "little" high, NJ actually isn't that bad to deal with any more. And you do get to take a deduction on your NJ return for the high property taxes you pay. But I will say that NJ does treat tax preparers fairly, oddly enough.
The "average" property tax in NJ is over $7,000. That's more than "a little high". Claiming property tax does little for your return...
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Palm Beach County just raised state sales tax to 7%, and is typical government. when I pay my sales tax every month, I have to do the state 6% and then add a discretionary tax of 1% and the online work page won't accept it unless it is separate. Cali should invest in tourism like Flariduh! to keep it low.
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Moon Beam Brown wants to add another 0.12 a gallon to our gas which is already taxed beyond belief and on average another $50.00 dollars a car to the registration fees.
Most of the voters in this state are brain dead.
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Worse than brain dead. Flat moronic.

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Moon Beam Brown wants to add another 0.12 a gallon to our gas which is already taxed beyond belief and on average another $50.00 dollars a car to the registration fees.
Most of the voters in this state are brain dead.
Kim,
Don't forget there was a $10 increase in CA vehicle registration fee that became effective 4/1/17. This was to fund DMV, a.k.a pensions/salaries. Lets be real here there will be little in form of road repairs, it's going to fund pensions and salaries or pet projects. The new 0.12/gal gasoline tax, 0.20/gal diesel fuel tax (plus an additional 5.75% sales tax for diesel), along with the registration fee increase (tiers from $25 to $125) will all be attached to the CPI going forward, so increases won't require any legislative actions. I calculated these new fees will hit me with nearly $1,000 in additional expenses each year, plus the $40 from the registration fee increase effective 4/1/17.

And there's still that bullet train to nowhere to fund. CA is headed for a spectacular failure on many levels. Tax creep here is just getting started.


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The "average" property tax in NJ is over $7,000. That's more than "a little high". Claiming property tax does little for your return...
IIRC, you can deduct up to $10,000 of NJ Real Estate Taxes paid on your NJ return.

Multiply that by NJ's tax rates.....and it's a decent deduction.

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...Don't get me started on property tax which is typically more per month than your mortgage. I have to start planning where I'm going to retire because one can't do it in New Jersey...
That's one place where California doesn't seem so bad (compared to other states)...

California is limited (yeah right) to 1% of the value at the time of transfer/sale, with the exception of local measures that can be added to that 1%... The 1% doesn't include things like direct assessments, but those are usually known/disclosed at the time of purchase (bonds for new schools, public landscaping and street lighting maintenance).

To help for inflation, they are allowed to increase the base rate by adjusting the basis up a maximum of 2% a year... So people that have lived in their houses for decades are spared from having outrageously high property tax bills. My mother's house (where my grandmother was born and raised) is worth in excess of $2Million (crazy), but mom's property taxes are under $2000/year (transfer/inheritance from parent to child does not increase the prop tax basis)...


But because everything else goes up with super high property values, all the Cities and Counties (and State) are complaining they need more money...



As for the wonderful increase in the gas tax (to fix our roads), it wouldn't be as bad (IMO) IF it was restricted to actually fixing roads and infrastructure, but its also going to be used for the Bullet train to Bakersfield, etc... It also give the government an incentive to keep using those other funds (originally earmarked for road repairs), for other pet projects (or maybe providing free stuff to illegal aliens, like legal advice, education, medical, etc)...



At least the new "gas tax" will hit low-income as well, so maybe we'll finally get so voter revolt...

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That's one place where California doesn't seem so bad (compared to other states)...

California is limited (yeah right) to 1% of the value at the time of transfer/sale, with the exception of local measures that can be added to that 1%... The 1% doesn't include things like direct assessments, but those are usually known/disclosed at the time of purchase (bonds for new schools, public landscaping and street lighting maintenance).

To help for inflation, they are allowed to increase the base rate by adjusting the basis up a maximum of 2% a year... So people that have lived in their houses for decades are spared from having outrageously high property tax bills. My mother's house (where my grandmother was born and raised) is worth in excess of $2Million (crazy), but mom's property taxes are under $2000/year (transfer/inheritance from parent to child does not increase the prop tax basis)...


But because everything else goes up with super high property values, all the Cities and Counties (and State) are complaining they need more money...



As for the wonderful increase in the gas tax (to fix our roads), it wouldn't be as bad (IMO) IF it was restricted to actually fixing roads and infrastructure, but its also going to be used for the Bullet train to Bakersfield, etc... It also give the government an incentive to keep using those other funds (originally earmarked for road repairs), for other pet projects (or maybe providing free stuff to illegal aliens, like legal advice, education, medical, etc)...



At least the new "gas tax" will hit low-income as well, so maybe we'll finally get so voter revolt...
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Gas tax in California is unreal. We went to Good Guys Del Mar a month ago, before your increase. I bought gas in Tucson, $2.09........gas in Eloy, AZ, $2.35............gas in Yuma, AZ, $2.24...........gas at the Golden Acorn Casino in the mountains of So Cal, $3.14.........gas in Del Mar, $3.39.
Oh, and my property taxes are under 1200 a year for house, shop, 5 car garage, and 5 acres...........I found where I'll retire.
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Gas tax in California is unreal. ...
And our roads/highways are CRAP.

Where does all that money go?! I already know, don't tell me.

Don't get me started.

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Our city wizards came up with a tax for the square footage of our roofs. Tax is supposed to be for rainwater sewer infrastructure repairs.

We had a major rainstorm in 2013, flooding everywhere. This is supposed to help.

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