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post #31 of 38 (permalink) Old Apr 24th, 16, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Re: great times to own a classic car.

Gotta love the internet, we go from our ability to get parts delivered across country with free shipping to technical information on how to or not to put stuff together.
Now what we need to figure out is this.........
The cul de sac I live on is hamilton place. About two miles down the road there is another hamilton place.
There isnt the same street address on the houses. I order a pizza and the delivery guy goes to the wrong hamilton place. You call 911 for a ambulance and theres a good chance the paramedics are driving around in circles in the wrong cul de sac.
I order brake lines from Summit. The Ohio box is delivered by fed ex in three days to the correct house
The nevada box with the rest of my parts got taken to the wrong cul de sac and sent back to phoenix on the 21. Then on the 22 the driver still couldn't figure it out and wasn't delivered because he was still at the wrong cul de sac. I called on Trac and wasn't told the driver was given a actual map and picture of the house off the internet so it should show up four days later! Hopefully ill have my brakes done monday. Jim
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post #32 of 38 (permalink) Old Apr 24th, 16, 10:39 PM
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Re: great times to own a classic car.

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I have my engineers hat on..I feel smarter already! cool thanks! Toot! Toot! chugga chugga chugga chugga toot! toot! chugga chugga chugga chugga toot! toot! I didn't know old car hobby could be so much fun chugga chugga chugga chugga toot! toot!
Here's a site you can make more friends by acting like you are! Bye - have fun! Don't forget to tell them about loc-tite for brake lines.

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post #33 of 38 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 16, 11:01 AM
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Re: great times to own a classic car.

Thank god you sent him to the Mustang forum and not the Cougar Forum; we have enough of them already on the Cougar forums....
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post #34 of 38 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 16, 2:31 PM
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Hi Folks,

To the OP: I agree, it is amazing that we have a nearly complete supply of parts that we'd want for our Chevelles. It is amazing (even if expensive some times) when compared to some of our car brethren who restore orphan cars and have to build their replacement parts from scratch.


To others following the flare fitting comments:

My comments below are not meant to berate anyone or be arrogant but rather a simple share of my experience as industrial mechanic studying hydraulic system design and service, as a practicing mechanical engineering tech for ~20 years doing machine design, and as a car guy for even longer. I have yet many things to learn. One of the things I have some experience with is flare fittings.

When folks say 'loc-tite' it could be taken as either "pipe thread sealant" or "thread locker". In the case of flared fittings "pipe thread sealant" may seem like a great sealing back-up but it actually won't help specifically with holding pressure. Here is a simplified version (not an actual brake line flare but similar in principle) of why:


Notice that the fitting compresses the flare of the tube in this cross sectioned picture. Imagine the flare has a leak and fluid is moving past the flared surface toward the fitting 'nut'. The fluid could get to the thread area where in fact the thread sealant may stop the leak - BUT - notice that the fluid could also seep past the other end of the fitting around the tip of the flare. This is why the thread sealant isn't effective at holding pressure.

There is a little "however" here: The thread sealant, especially the ones that contain teflon, may act like a bit of a lubricant (not unlike the oil on threads mentioned in a previous post) which could help reduce tightening friction and apply more clamping force to the flare for a better seal. In that sense the thread sealant could help. And in the same manner, so could "thread locker". All very similar to the use of the oil as a lubricant.

As mentioned already, the thread sealant won't make a significant difference to locking threads and the thread locker could potentially be too strong depending on the type used. Flared fittings properly tightened are generally excellent at avoiding becoming loose from vibration. But if one was bent on using it I would recommend using the purple "222" thread locker as it is typically very easy to remove with hand tools. Proper tightening torque will in the vast majority of cases be sufficient without any additives just need clean fittings in good condition.

Under no circumstances should any thread locker or sealant be added to flare surfaces as it may contaminate/react with the fluid the tubes are meant to convey. Cleanliness in a hydraulic system is important. I discourage the use of teflon tape anywhere in a hydraulic system as even a small bit of it could foul up the operation of valves or small passage ways.

I hope that was helpful to some readers.
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exactly ! any educated tech would not allow any type of contamination in the lines ! i have a buddy who used loc-tite while doing his brake conversion last year , not sure where he came up with the misguided info he had already used it on a brake fitting at the proportioning valve and could not figure out why it wouldnt thread on ! the loc-tite had dried in the fitting while he was struggling to connect it ! i informed him the connections need to be free of contamination when assembling any type of hydraulic lines !
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Re: great times to own a classic car.

A couple notes. I did the same thing on my 66. I looked at the tee for the rear brakes and immediately decided to buy a new one, as well as every other hard line and hose on the car when I did the disc upgrade several years ago. Seems to have worked. Still manual brakes and will lock all four when needed.

To clarify, I see no need to put sealer or thread locker on brake fittings. Rust will typically hold them together. I do use anti sieze on more things than most, lugnuts, trans and chassis bolts, and all engine accessories and manifolds, int and exh. I did use locktite on the crank to flywheel bolts. Thread sealant on the intake and some head bolts, and other water fittings. And other pipe thread style fittings.

Generally I own stuff long enough that it has to come apart again. And I learned from outboard motors.

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Got the rest of the parts this afternoon! What I thought was a missing rearend cover bolt to mount the brake line bracket turned out to be broken. So the fun of drilling out the bolt, which is stilll stuck. Gotta love working on 50 year old cars.
I did find the rear axle code, ca 3.08 open. Also found the floor pan passenger rear looks to have been bottomed out. No rust but dented pretty good. Jim

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post #37 of 38 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 16, 12:49 AM
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Re: great times to own a classic car.

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It's quite apparent to me that this 65beaumont guy is a malcontent know it all that just likes to stir the pot. The web has millions like him. Too bad he found this place.

As you are seeing here now, there's a reason the below mentioned happened to 65Beaumont (Darren) on Canadian Poncho---


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It was more of an informative discussion until someone started all the drama.

Kind of reminds me of someone who was banned from C.P., twice??.

ak is certainly knowledgeable on Acadian , Beaumont and Canadian Pontiac history!!

Cam knows a bit too

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I owe T.C. an apology, someone wasn't actually banned twice at C.P.

I've been informed Darren was actually banned three times, using different screen names.

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post #38 of 38 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 16, 5:41 AM
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I'm not the one who is having a kanip**** over 50 cents worth of thread sealant, are you a engineer? apparently you need to be a engineer lol hilarious chugga chugga chugga chugga toot! toot! lol
Darren, as a Canadian Pontiac owner to a Canadian Acadian Beaumont owner I respectfully request you tone it down.

I don't want all the good folks here thinking all Canadians act like you have been performing in this thread. Please, take a breath and

START OVER.

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