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If I'm buying a Camaro, it's not going to be a 4cyl

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If I'm buying a Camaro, it's not going to be a 4cyl
Why would they even build a 4 cyl.?

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The 4t 1le Camaro is an extremely balanced car.
Pretty poor comparison to compare a 4 door 6 cylinder Camry (actually not "bad" looking) to a 4cylinder Camaro.
It should have been 6 cylinder vs 6 cylinder but for bs purposes they had to somehow make the Camry appear better than it is. The 6 cylinder Camaro is 335hp and 284lbft of torque. A no brainer...

I drove a 2019 3lt R/S Camaro yesterday which is a nicely built driver. The car actually handles quite well and the 3lt trim is pretty up there in classiness. I haven't been inside the Camry so I can't have an opinion on it's interior. The choice between the two would boil down to space requirements. The Camaro is going to be the power/handling winner period but for a daily the Camry wouldn't be bad. I noticed in the Camaro yesterday that you could hardly fit a sheet of paper between the back of the front seat and the rear seat. In my mind this is an issue if you need to haul children along.
On a trip the Camry would likely be the more comfortable choice based on roominess alone.
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Why would they even build a 4 cyl.?
Because people want the Camaro looks without the poor fuel economy of the V8 (relatively speaking). The 4 cylinder model is also less money. They had a 4 cylinder Camaro back in the 80s, too (the modern one is much quicker). Another reason is that each automaker has to meet the CAFE standards (fuel efficiency across their lineup) - the 4 cylinder helps to meet those standards.
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Why would they even build a 4 cyl.?
Because most drivers are perfectly fine with driving 10 under the posted speed limit in the left lane. There is no need for torque and horsepower when their car has more than enough to drive Miss Daisy around.
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Why do they put a back seat in the Camaro? 100% non useable unless you have no legs. How can this get from the design stage to production like that?

Tighten it till it strips and back it off a quarter turn.
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4 cylinder camaro??? Nope, not me......
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Because most drivers are perfectly fine with driving 10 under the posted speed limit in the left lane. There is no need for torque and horsepower when their car has more than enough to drive Miss Daisy around.
That would be funny, except in stock form these will run 13.70’s, which is substantally quicker than the majority of the 1st and early second generation performance models available. I still wouldn’t want one, but they shouldn’t be dismissed outright based on the number of cylinders in the engine bay.

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I still wouldn’t want one
My guess is, most here are not included in the "most drivers" I referred to.

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Because people want the Camaro looks without the poor fuel economy of the V8 (relatively speaking). The 4 cylinder model is also less money. They had a 4 cylinder Camaro back in the 80s, too (the modern one is much quicker). Another reason is that each automaker has to meet the CAFE standards (fuel efficiency across their lineup) - the 4 cylinder helps to meet those standards.
They should have used a V6 Camaro V. a V6 Camry
But why a 4 cyl Camaro? Brian nailed it with this answer.The CAFE standards that keeps increasing year after year and no matter what tech they come out with that CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standard just keeps on increasing every year.
But what is that 4 cylinder power output ? 275HP & 295 Torque?that's not too bad,almost as much as an L48 350 in 1970 and as much as an L48 350 after the HP drop across the board in 71.

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They should have used a V6 Camaro V. a V6 Camry
But why a 4 cyl Camaro? Brian nailed it with this answer.The CAFE standards that keeps increasing year after year and no matter what tech they come out with that CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standard just keeps on increasing every year.
But what is that 4 cylinder power output ? 275HP & 295 Torque?that's not too bad,almost as much as an L48 350 in 1970 and as much as an L48 350 after the HP drop across the board in 71.
The reason they chose the 4 cylinder Camaro for the comparison was the cost. Both the 4 cylinder Camaro and the 6 cylinder Camry were very close in price to each other. The 6 cylinder Camaro is more expensive (about $3,000 more for that engine with the automatic).
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Absolutely, positively no contest. Id go with the Camry 100%. It has ten times the build quality of the Camaro. Ten years down the road the Camry owner will be saying what a great car it has been while the Camaro owner will be bitching about all the things he has had to fix. Been there done that. Several times.
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FWIW, an LT1 trim level Camaro with 6.2L V8 and 6-speed manual and no other options is only $870 more than that Camry and has 455hp.

I was planning to buy a Camaro until we had a 3rd kid
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