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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old Feb 17th, 20, 9:56 AM Thread Starter
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GM kills off Holden

I find it interesting that Ford and GM built cars in Australia for decades and now it is no longer justifiable. Could the value of the currency be that far off so that building cars there is dead? There must be more to it, as Australia has been an OK place to build cars even if the market was relatively small. It looks like the entire Asian market is in turmoil for GM.

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Australia was subsidizing the car manufacturing for a long time. When that ended, Ford and GM both stopped production there.

It's unfortunate, my Holden (Pontiac G8) has been a fantastic car.

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Love my SS. Just don't know if I should keep it now. Finding some parts for the SSR is bad enough and GM made more than 2x the # of those.

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This is sad. My 04 GTO is probably the most under appreciated cars from Holden.

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This is sad. My 04 GTO is probably the most under appreciated cars from Holden.
And I've been eyeing buying one lately. Last thing I need is another toy.... but we all know this obsession!

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Love my SS. Just don't know if I should keep it now. Finding some parts for the SSR is bad enough and GM made more than 2x the # of those.
I was kind of hoping we'd have traded the G8 for an SS by now, but those just aren't depreciating into my budget... so, we're doing a cam, exhaust, and tune in the G8 this spring and going to keep it until it hits 200k.

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Yup GM just keep shooting themselves in the foot. I have not bought a new GM car or truck since 1985 and I still won't buy another one new.
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Yup GM just keep shooting themselves in the foot. I have not bought a new GM car or truck since 1985 and I still won't buy another one new.
You don’t know what your missing, the new stuff offers things the older vehicles could only dream of.
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Yup GM just keep shooting themselves in the foot. I have not bought a new GM car or truck since 1985 and I still won't buy another one new.
Well it hasnt been that long for me. I bought a new 2012 Buick Regal GS. Kept it till it had 60K miles. I feel I got screwed on several new GM vehicles including the new 2000 Silverado i bought. The list of items that failed on that truck is lengthy. I have sworn off any more new GM vehicles. They are headed down the tubes. 20 years ago I would have never considered buying anything but big 3 vehicles. Now I have sworn off two of them and cant see buying from the remainer. Its a sad day.
Just dont understand how they cant make a reliable vehicle when other manufacturers seem to do it all the time. Wake up GM.
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Up until the early 1980's, the big traditional car makers had most of the markets and the Japanese makes were just a small dent. They laughed off the imports as "the little guys".

As Japanese brands increased in quality and fuel economy, and the big guys stayed where they were, that small dent in the market grew. While GM, Ford and Chrysler struggled to build cars that weren't junk, the Asian imports seemed to get it right. People got tired real quick of their Pontiac being a clunker while their friend's Honda or Toyota just ran great.

Now the market is flooded by a dozen makes all seemingly getting better every time. And buyer loyalty slipped away.

Lincoln, Pontiac, now Holden, is the result.

I had a new 1990 GMC S Jimmy. It had about fifteen issues from the factory-and the dealership seemed to bungle every repair. One was a bad PCM.

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The one and only new vehicle I ever bought was a 99 GMC (Old body style) Z-71 4x4. The sticker on it was over 40 G's and it was a steaming pile of dung from day one and didn't get any better over time. I now have a 2001 Silverado 1500 2 wheel drive that I bought used for 1500 bucks 5 years ago and it's been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. I'll buy GM again but never new, unless I win the lotto.

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You donít know what your missing, the new stuff offers things the older vehicles could only dream of.
You mean like very expensive vehicles that require repairs that competitors vehicles do not. Like the famous rotted brake, fuel and trans lines on the GM trucks that should have been a recall. Which can be a very hazardous situation.
Which also could have been remedied for less than $50.00 per vehicle. Whats another $50.00 per vehicle when the buyer is spending $50k. Yet if the buyer is lucky enough not to be killed when they faill the repair ends up costing $2K plus.
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Guess I'm lucky and the fact that I live in a relatively nice area weather-wise, but my 06 Silverado crew cab is without a doubt the most trouble free vehicle I have owned. Can't say that about the new Lexus and Toyota I've also owned.
Bought it new and have 175K on it at this time. I keep up on the maintenance and replaced the normal wear items as required. Still gets about 6000 miles/qt of oil. The only problem I've had is that the engine oil pump failed at 155K (at least it did it in my driveway)
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