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Re: Man Killed by Remote-Started Car

Ok.... something I either missed in the video or wasn't mentioned. Car was a 2002 model - so no factory auto start. And, that car might also be equipped with a manual trans. So, this was an aftermarket install --- no smart phone crap -- and the installer (or possibly the owner) didn't connect all of the safeties... assuming the system has them.

And how does one die from being crushed at the knees? Or was this character underneath the car and got crushed in the chest? And didn't his mommy teach him not to play between parked cars in the first place?

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Ok.... something I either missed in the video or wasn't mentioned. Car was a 2002 model - so no factory auto start. And, that car might also be equipped with a manual trans. So, this was an aftermarket install --- no smart phone crap -- and the installer (or possibly the owner) didn't connect all of the safeties... assuming the system has them.

And how does one die from being crushed at the knees? Or was this character underneath the car and got crushed in the chest? And didn't his mommy teach him not to play between parked cars in the first place?
Maybe you should put the his in his comments section.

He had been inspecting one of the vehicles at the time of the accident, intending to buy it.

I would ASSUME since the car crushed him twice that maybe the first time he was crushed between two cars it may have at the knees which caused him to not be able to stand and the second time he was crushed, he wasn't standing.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerse...s-remote-start

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2019/12/...ne-is-driving/

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That's sad for this poor kid. Ultimately the owner of the vehicle is responsible for any damages to property or person regardless of who was driving the car. I'm not sure if he can be charged with manslaughter. My guess is yes. The owner may have recourse against the installer if the device was not properly installed.
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I have a neighbor with a small Dodge Pickup. It was not new when he got it, and had some questionable mods done on it. One of which was an "Alarm System", with Remote Start. Several times he went out to leave, and it was already running in the driveway. He said he never touched the "Alarm Fob". So some how it got set off just being in his pocket. When it got to the point that it was sitting out front running all night, he had the whole alarm removed ....problem solved. If the guy that got killed was crushed at the waist, its a good chance that one or both of his "Femoral Artery's" were damaged, in which case he probably just bled out.

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I use the ignition key in ALL my cars. including the riding law mower-----------which requires sitting in the seat and depressing the brake pedal.
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The remote-controlled engine ignition system was an after-market addition to the car, as it was not offered as a feature by Lexus in 2002, a spokesperson for the company told Streetsblog after initial publication of this story
I wonder if someone might have installed the aftermarket kit on a stick shift car or one bypassing the neutral safety switch on an automatic car.

Quite a few vehicles are being stolen when left running so the police have been giving warnings and tickets in my city for it.

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I use the ignition key in ALL my cars. including the riding law mower-----------which requires sitting in the seat and depressing the brake pedal.
If you lived in a place where it gets to -40įF, you would look more favorably at remote start.
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When I hear of cars that get stolen while running and unlocked, I say it didn't get stolen, they gave it away.

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When I hear of cars that get stolen while running and unlocked, I say it didn't get stolen, they gave it away.
Thatís not how remote start works.

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Thatís not how remote start works.
Then how does it work and why are so many cars being stolen when left running?

The police said that car thieves are going around looking for unattended running cars, especially in colder weather.

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^^^ Lots of people without remote start just go out and start the car then let it warm up after they go back in the house.
When a remote start car is started the steering wheel is still locked on most older models but on newer cars with factory remotes you need the key fob to actually drive away.
Aftermarket installers won't add a remote start to manual trans cars around here don't know what is allowed in colder weather states.

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If you lived in a place where it gets to -40įF, you would look more favorably at remote start.
That is the truth, I use mine every time, it is impossible to steal without the fob and as far as it moving in it’s own. That has to be some type of hillbilly “I” know better then the manufactures instructions installation. As usual there is more to the story then a five minute rambling pod cast is willing to share.
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Then how does it work and why are so many cars being stolen when left running?

The police said that car thieves are going around looking for unattended running cars, especially in colder weather.
On my 2010 Malibu, the Remote Start using the Key Fob, required you to lock the car, and then press another button on the Fob within 10sec. The car would start and run for 10min. There was a procedure to give another 10min while it was running, but you had to catch it just right or it would not take. While the car was running in remote start, you cannot apply the brakes, put the car in gear, or turn the steering wheel. Same procedures for my 15 Silverado, except the extended run time is gone. The heat or air conditioning will come on depending on outside temperature.... Bottom Line....you might get a little comfort from the weather.....but your not going anywhere. The only way to get the car out of remote start while its running, is to insert the key, and turn it like you were going to start it. The starter is locked out so you can't accidentally engage it. But that's it in a nutshell. Once you start the car(turning off the remote start)everything goes back to how ever you previously left it. Radio comes on if it was on, heat or air comes on... Its strictly a convenience item if the weather is bad, or you need the car warmed up for a short trip.....otherwise its really got limited use potential....It wont turn on the Heated Seats, if that's one of the options in the car, so you still get a chilly reception. As for cars being stolen...."None" of the locking items listed above were present on the "Neighbors Truck" in my previous post....soooooo if you came upon it and he failed to lock it.....you would be happily on your way if the steering wheel would or was unlocked, or you could press the brake to put it in gear. I guess it all depends on the vehicle model and what the actual key in the ignition enabled.

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I wonder if all those microphones on display behind him are ones he wore out in previous rambling videos. I have watched several of his videos and one thing he does not get is "concise". Too bad as he probably has some good info trying to get out.
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