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post #1 of 70 (permalink) Old Dec 9th, 19, 7:17 PM Thread Starter
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I'm surprised Buick has lasted this long. I can't think of any Buick newer than 1987 that I'd want to own.

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It should've went before Pontiac.
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It should've went before Pontiac.
Absolutely. We may have got some of those “utes” from Holden
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The markets in China might be the deciding factor. GM has long ago lost its leadership position in the industry. They are struggling to find a way forward. Long ago they had it all and now they are just another player. Back when they had buckets of cash to throw around they spent a lot of it on inventing and developing new technology. Sadly that part is now likely lost.
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When a company builds vehicles which prematurely fall apart they can expect no less than to perish. My Silverado which is good mechanically is a pos when it comes to window hardware and the otherwise cheap Chinese plastic parts. It fails miserably for the price at those levels. Compared to our Chevelle's the newer stuff is like comparing at Pop Warner team to an NFL team.

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Buick is a prestige brand in China, that would be their only salvation. For whatever reason, Buicks were imported in the 20's and 30's and seen as a luxury, and something to aspire to in their culture, similar to Mercedes and such here in the US.

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When a company builds vehicles which prematurely fall apart they can expect no less than to perish. My Silverado which is good mechanically is a pos when it comes to window hardware and the otherwise cheap Chinese plastic parts. It fails miserably for the price at those levels. Compared to our Chevelle's the newer stuff is like comparing at Pop Warner team to an NFL team.
Boy did you nail it, I'm a little skeptical on the whole "Mechanical Thing", overall I am really disappointed with the truck. The recent Battery Exchange, if that is any indication of things to come, I really wish I could have gotten a lease, instead of buying it. I bought my 76 K5 Blazer with 45,000 on it. Its got over 300,000 on it now....I don't see the 15 doing anything near that without some serious failure, probably computer control related. It is the last GM product I will ever buy.
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I don't know why Buick stayed and Pontiac was dropped, I always thought PMD was more of a muscle car type not downing Buick and the GS because it was rated at 500 TQ, and the GN and GNX but IMO maybe saved them ?
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Buick made some nice products before the "corporate engine" nonsense and front wheel drive. It's been downhill ever since for most GM car lines. The CTS/V and a few Chevy's are good cars but the cheapness is instilled in the top levels of management. Barra is making 22 Million per year and she tell's those on the assembly line not to plan on any job security in future contracts.

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GM kept pumping money into Saturn despite it being a failure every day it operated just to save face and not admit it was a bad idea, $50 billion as I recall. While this was going on, GM let Oldsmobile languish in antiquated plants and didn't have any concern for style and market needs that smarter brands became experts in.

It was this loss of funds that led to the bankruptcy and the bleeding off of Saturn, Saab, Pontiac, Humvee and even some subsidiaries such as AC-Delco (now called ACDelco).

Buick has been stagnant for years now, I'm also surprised it survived this long.

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post #12 of 70 (permalink) Old Dec 10th, 19, 2:29 AM
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So let's talk about most all Chevrolets icluding Pickups have the same stupid looking grille. How many grilles can a person put on one car amyway? I thing the Cruze has 3. GM styling needs a house cleaning except maybe for the C8.

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I used to say that if I needed a new car, it would be a truck, because the cars are ugly. Now, so are the trucks. I've said it before, and I'll say it again........my wife loves her 01 Tahoe. It has 293,000 miles on it and still runs like new. Uses no oil, pulls my car trailer, just keeps on running. I replaced one window motor about 250,000 miles ago. She doesn't want a new one (thank God) and says if this motor fails, install another one. I see a lot of new trucks on the road, can't understand how people can justify the cost. You won't see me in one.

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I currently own a Buick. It is an 05 LeSabre and I think it's a pretty good car although it does have some.issues that all GM vehicles have.
We did have a 2012 Buick Regal GS that we bought brand new. The styling was good but mechanically it was a disappointment. By the time it had 60K miles I had replaced the drivers side rear bearing and hub 3 times and the passenger bearing and hub twice. Traded that car in and decided that was the last GM purchase for me.
GM build quality and reliability is poor and has been for decades. There was a time when I wouldn't even consider buying a vehicle that wasn't a GM. Now I am sure I will never buy one again unless they change their act.Only vehicle I would consider now is a Corvette and I doubt I would ever buy one of those.
I recall seeing a program where the CEOs of Cadillac were saying year after year that quality was job one. Meantime they were putting out a subpar product. What a shame.
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GM Oshawa used to be my largest customer back in the day when this whole region revolved around them and they were running shifts around the clock. Now it is a ghost town. Acres and acres of empty parking lots that used to be full of employees cars and cars coming off the lines. Has been very painfull watching the decline. I have a 96 Sierra and my 67 which were both built when things were good. But probably wont buy another. Have moved to Ford on our newer vehicles which pains me to say. (Not that they are much better probably) but not about to support an offshore brand.
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