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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old Sep 16th, 19, 6:18 PM Thread Starter
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Coming soon to your classic car collection - "sustainabilty" tax

Shelby County Tennessee mayor wants owners of more than two cars to pay $145 extra a year for each car, with the proceeds going to support the money losing public transportation system.

https://wreg.com/2019/09/04/shelby-c...hree-vehicles/

I'm not posting to talk about this specific effort, but just to put it out there as a warning that Shelby County probably will not be the only jurisdiction to try this.
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Re: Coming soon to your classic car collection - "sustainabilty" tax

The metro area I live in is "nuts" about Light Rail Transit. They spent 1 Billion dollars to build a line from downtown St. Paul to downtown Minneapolis. That 1 billion does not include operations costs and the fact that they doubled the size of the department of "bus cops" due to the expected level of crime on the new line. Nor did it include buying a former rail road depot to serve as a transit hub (at $250,000,000.00 which does not even include the cost of renovations to the depot). The line was meant to supplement an existing bus line. Light Rail running along side busses -- what the he!! kind of idea is that! Ridership never reached the "projected" levels and now transit operations is cutting back on the number of trains on the route and will no longer be a 24/7/365 operation.

The big deal in the news papers was the fact that since the line no longer will run 24/7/365, all the homeless folks how "live" on the trains will have to find different places to sleep.

1.25 Billion dollars wasted -- I bet they could have done something about homelessness with 1.25 Billion dollars.
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Has anyone pointed out to these guys that no matter how many cars a person owns, they can drive only one at a time? The number of vehicles owned is not relevant to air pollution or anything else. The owner is already paying in more taxes on vehicles that are rarely used.
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Re: Coming soon to your classic car collection - "sustainabilty" tax

We are experiencing a similar nonsense here in the Province of Quebec (Can) There is a "fee" charged on every vehicle registered to finance the public transit system. What I find is a real nonsense is the fact that since I'm not using the public transit system, why should I have to pay for it??? It's the users who benefit from it who should pay, not the ones who are not using it no? Does that make sense??

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It's basically a personal property tax like VA has. You get charged every year for owning anything useful.

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The metro area I live in is "nuts" about Light Rail Transit. They spent 1 Billion dollars to build a line from downtown St. Paul to downtown Minneapolis. That 1 billion does not include operations costs and the fact that they doubled the size of the department of "bus cops" due to the expected level of crime on the new line. Nor did it include buying a former rail road depot to serve as a transit hub (at $250,000,000.00 which does not even include the cost of renovations to the depot). The line was meant to supplement an existing bus line. Light Rail running along side busses -- what the he!! kind of idea is that! Ridership never reached the "projected" levels and now transit operations is cutting back on the number of trains on the route and will no longer be a 24/7/365 operation.

The big deal in the news papers was the fact that since the line no longer will run 24/7/365, all the homeless folks how "live" on the trains will have to find different places to sleep.

1.25 Billion dollars wasted -- I bet they could have done something about homelessness with 1.25 Billion dollars.
I know what happened on the Blue line and why it's not going in right now in the north metro of Mpls. Hennepin CO. and the idiots block BNSF and CP Rial a few years ago when they tried to but land and add a curve in the tracks to get more oil train in the freight yards at BNSF. Well one of our fine commissioners thought it would be smart to buy the land out from underneath the railroads and put a stop to it, guess what? now BNSF says no f-ing was to sharing their tacks with the project. That's what they get for pissing in the railroads wheaties.
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And here is the weasel clause

The $10 million in revenue will then be used to fund MATA each year. Harris says this proposal would generate millions for MATA's crumbling infrastructure and fight poverty.

The 'Fight Poverty' phrase is that never ending political sewer your money keeps falling into without any return for it. It also means they can raise it each and every year.

Just my .02.....grr

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Has anyone pointed out to these guys that no matter how many cars a person owns, they can drive only one at a time? The number of vehicles owned is not relevant to air pollution or anything else. The owner is already paying in more taxes on vehicles that are rarely used.
Tell that to my insurance company.

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It's "for the children.....".


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Shelby County Tennessee mayor wants owners of more than two cars to pay $145 extra a year for each car, with the proceeds going to support the money losing public transportation system.
Nashville is also a "blue city" run by democrats. It's on the edge of financial trouble and we just voted down a 9 BILLION dollar light rail system. It would have ruined us financially and these morons were trying to get the people to do it.

A tax on multiple car owners would pass because we are a small minority.

The only way out from under their thumb is to move out of Davidson county.
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Nevada, newly installed Democratic State government, tried for 5 years to get this done, finally, we now have to post our mileage, so we can be charged for road use, miles we drive, to pay more Common Core Curriculum worthless teachers higher salaries. They make 85K per year now.
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It's the users who benefit from it who should pay, not the ones who are not using it no? Does that make sense??

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Kansas City did a light rail a few years, they pushed it through. Promised to bring in money to the downtown area, its now being subsidized.

I do gonna ask, what the hell happened to the state of Minnesota?

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I do gonna ask, what the hell happened to the state of Minnesota?

You mean beside all the leftists in Minneapolis/St Paul, or you wondering about the invasion?
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well, he's already pissed off the Shelby County clerk.

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/...-fund-transit/

Plus there is developing opposition to it even among people who support subsidizing the bus system. The unfairness seems to have struck a chord.

Plus, Shelby County residents already pay a $50 fee for education that was added in 1987 and was supposed to be temporary.

Anyway, I posted this on the Team Chevelle FB page when it came out and they deleted it and blocked me. I guess they should change their name to "Team Butthurt". lol
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