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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Apr 1st, 19, 8:05 AM Thread Starter
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USS Forrestal, 1967

This is a documented account of what happened. Scroll down the page to "zuni Rocket launched." I guess they were known for electrical problems.
I hadn't read this before. Now we know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

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I worked with a guy who was on the USS Forest Fire when that went down. Barely escaped with his life. Terrible tragedy.
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Someone posted about Senator John McCain;

"over 130 men died due to his smart-ass-ness and then was the only man helicoptered off because the other men wanted his hide"

What was that all about?

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I don't post much but had to reply to this..........What elevated McCain to hero status???.....Was it that he graduated annapolis fifth from the bottom of 400 cadets...or was it he trashed three planes due to incompentence before he his stint on the Forrestal in July 67 where over 130 men died due to his smart-ass-ness and then was the only man helicoptered off because the other men wanted his hide (he said he "wanted to get right back in the fight" was why he left. Then maybe it was being shot down over North Vietnam, again hot-dogging and flying at a lower altitude than he was supposed to be. Then, in the Hanoi Hilton there are questionable reports as to his status there. Maybe he was a hero because he wanted to be Pres. so bad in the late '80s that he sold his soul to Charles Keating as part of a bunch of Senators who defrauded the savings & loan institutions and cost the taxpayers millions known as the" Keating Five" scandel. There is one other reason he could be a hero............Daddy and GrandPa were both 4 star Admirals' who had a bunch of power in Washington and could formulate a white-washed government report to enhance his career.

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https://youtu.be/tIE2QfDzmGc

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Someone posted about Senator John McCain;

"over 130 men died due to his smart-ass-ness and then was the only man helicoptered off because the other men wanted his hide"

What was that all about?
I had to see for myself what caused the accident and who the blame was placed on. Not too much there on McCain from what I read. Zuni rocket fired from an electrical surge when shifting power buses from the plane to the ship.
Any TCers on board this ship when it happened?

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https://youtu.be/tIE2QfDzmGc

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Yep, required to see when I was in also. Most people don't realize that the one thing we trained more hours for than anything else in the Navy was firefighting. I was on a Destroyer, and it was only 563 ft. long...either put the damn fire out or start swimming!
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Not to defend, but only to explain what I experienced in my 25 years in the Navy. I too saw the film clip about the Forrestal, attended Navy firefighting school and fought my share of shipboard fires. None as big as the Forrestal Thank God.
I didn't serve on the Forrestal but did serve on another carrier for two cruises off Vietnam, working the flight deck as a catapult electrician. I got to know a lot of pilots during the time I was onboard.

Imagine you are 23-25 years old. Someone just gave you a plane with your name on it that's faster than the speed of sound and can kick almost any other planes butt. You're a better pilot than the Air Force since you can land on a pitching carrier deck, at night, in a storm. And you are a cocky smart-azz. (Think Top Gun) So the fact that McCain was a smart azz isn't surprising. Most young pilots were.

After any incident involving a death or a major $$$ accident the Navy convenes a Board of Review to determine the cause of the accident. This may take months to reach a conclusion. Until then the cause is subject to rumor and speculation.
More than likely people thought McCain hit the firing switch launching the missile. In this instance it was determined by the Board to be a power surge as mentioned above.
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Someone posted about Senator John McCain;

"over 130 men died due to his smart-ass-ness and then was the only man helicoptered off because the other men wanted his hide"

What was that all about?

I found the comments in that post to be totally unfounded after conducting a thorough google search of each sentence. A lot of the accusations were found word for word on ...lets just say - far less than non-partisan websites.


One more thing. The Forrestal investigation revealed than a zuni rocket misfired from an F-4 Phantom. McCain flew the A-4 therefore no culpability on his part.


For a more thorough and BTW quite informative documentary of the Forrestal incident can be found here for anyone interested in the FACTS:


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My Brother in Law was aboard during that time, he said it was like being in Hell!!

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Quite the video and informative. Sure changed the Navy's way of thinking on damage control. I cant imagine sleeping below decks and having aviation fuel pouring in, let alone being topside with those old bombs.
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that's why she had the nickname " USS FORESTFIRE". i remember watching some films in boot camp about her in the early 80s
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that's why she had the nickname " USS FORESTFIRE". i remember watching some films in boot camp about her in the early 80s
We learned allot of damage control fighting fires at the New London sub base in the 60's. Think they tried to prepare us for the worse case scenario.
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We learned allot of damage control fighting fires at the New London sub base in the 60's. Think they tried to prepare us for the worse case scenario.
as you would know, a fire on a sub is a submariners worst fear.

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I would like to know how many time this surge has happened? I call bull

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I would like to know how many time this surge has happened? I call bull

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