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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Aug 1st, 18, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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Joys of changing a starter

I found this video of changing a Honda starter. It reminds me of the fact that guys who design cars are not likely to have any experience repairing them. This guy's experience is similar to what I found on changing the starter in my 4WD S10 Blazer. When I got about half the car disassembled, a mechanic friend of mine told the easy way to do it: disassemble the starter into pieces and drop out the pieces. Then get the mini-starter that goes in without any drama. Sure wish I had known that before doing the job. Anyway, here is 3 minutes of Honda fun.

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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old Aug 1st, 18, 12:07 PM
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Some Toyotas have the starter in the "v" underneath the intake. Obviously a tech didn't design that, but to be fair to the engineers- I've never heard of one needing replacement. As a former Honda tech I can't remember ever replacing a starter on a Honda with under 150,000 miles. As far as car companies are concerned, if you get 10 years or 100,000 miles out of a part they over-engineered it.
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post #3 of 25 (permalink) Old Aug 1st, 18, 2:39 PM
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I can see a starter being hard to change as it's not regular maintenance. Not a priority for the engineers. The ones I don't get are the regular maintenance items that are not made easy. My sister had a 1996ish Ford Contour. I changed oil on it for her. The filter is at the back of the engine mounted upside down above the transmission. As soon as you get the filter loose, oil dumps everywhere. Whoever designed that obviously has never changed their own oil before.
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I had a 76 T/A with a 400 in the 80's and was changing my first set of plugs on the car and couldn't get to 1 of the plugs, called a mechanic friend and he said pull the pas side front wheel off and get at it that way lol it worked out fine but I don't think I would have thought about that back then haha


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Anyone who buy's an Import deserves to have to work on it.
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Anyone who buy's an Import deserves to have to work on it.
Because a Cadillac Northstar doesn't have the starter where the camshaft should be?!

None of the manufacturers are blameless in idiotic designs.
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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old Aug 1st, 18, 4:39 PM
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I had a 2003 Honda Element. Fortunately, I never had to have the starter replaced.

They were manufactured in East Liberty, Ohio.
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Designed & engineered by ??? is what the problem is, also they don't want owners doing their own repairs IMO, dealer needs that vehicle to come back for repairs so they can stick it to ya some more lol


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I had to do an alternator in a Tercel one time. Wide open engine bay. Figured I'd be done in half an hour. I couldn't find any way to turn the thing that wouldn't hit something. The firewall, intake, master cylinder, strut tower.

Turns out, you have to drop the CV shaft and pull it out that way!!

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The absolute worst starter I have had to deal with was on a Chevette...
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I can do an Element/CRV in under an hour. A Toyota V8? Not so much. Nissan V8s are fun, but Northstar is a twenty minute job.

Worst starter ever? 79 Chevette, with power brakes, pre Gearwrench.

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Most new vehicles are designed and engineered with one common assembly procedure. The assembly line starts with either a starter or a/c pump and the car is then built around it. That's why the flat rate to r&r an a/c compressor on a Jetta is 14 hrs.
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06 dodge avenger...... starter is underneath the upper intake plenum. super fun.
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Anyone who buy's an Import deserves to have to work on it.
....but they usually dont have to.
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Anyone who buy's an Import deserves to have to work on it.
....but they usually dont have to.
BUUUUUUURRRRNNNNNN! so true. I have a 92' Honda accord wagon, and the Mrs a 14' rouge, Japanese cars are the most reliable, plain and simple....
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